EKWB's former CEO and CTO join Corsair

[Dominik.AT]

"Today we can let everyone know what happened to those who left the company, and this news has deeper potential implications to the PC DIY market. Both Mark Tanko, ex-CEO, and Niko Tivadar, ex-CTO, confirmed to us that they have officially joined CORSAIR. Mark is now "Vice President & BU General Manager at CORSAIR", whereas Niko is "Director Of Engineering at CORSAIR". We contacted them for a statement, and it can be seen following the break."

 

Sources:
https://www.techpowerup.com/239706/corsair-opens-port-to-ex-ekwb-top-management
https://overclock3d.net/news/cases_cooling/corsair_opens_its_doors_to_ekwb_s_former_ceo_and_cto/1

 

[Bananasplit_00]

so i guess from now on there will be 0 inovation from Corsair for the next 5 years or so?  

[Matu20]

6 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

so i guess from now on there will be 0 inovation from Corsair for the next 5 years or so?  

Why do you say that? EK was good with innovation, 5 years ago custom loops were rare, they made it available for wider audiences.

[Bananasplit_00]

41 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

Why do you say that? EK was good with innovation, 5 years ago custom loops were rare, they made it available for wider audiences.

the CPU blocks almost entirely the same since 2012(didnt check before then), the GPU blocks are copy pasta with diffrent milled base plates to mount to the cards, i dont see much inovation here

[Ginger_]

I wonder if this means Corsair plans on getting into custom loops

[3 Lions]

11 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

the CPU blocks almost entirely the same since 2012(didnt check before then), the GPU blocks are copy pasta with diffrent milled base plates to mount to the cards, i dont see much inovation here

If it works they why change it? 

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

If it works they why change it? 

becasue it dosent work as good as their competators? Watercool and Alphacool has them beat, because they have inovated instead of copy pastad

[3 Lions]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

Watercool and Alphacool has them beat,

And can you prove that? 

[Matu20]

14 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

the CPU blocks almost entirely the same since 2012(didnt check before then), the GPU blocks are copy pasta with diffrent milled base plates to mount to the cards, i dont see much inovation here

There's only so many ways a block of copper can be molded. Aesthetics and ease of use have been much more important than pure perf.

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, Matu20 said:

There's only so many ways a block of copper can be molded

yah. but there are a hell of a lot of ways to make water flow throgh the milled chanels, you could also up fin densety, or lower it it add jet plates and so on. a waterblock isnt just a pice of copper. you can also make the baseplate thicker, thinner, experiment with alloys and so on... there is a lot to a waterblock and while performance improvements arent super easy to make someone has to do the RnD

1 minute ago, Matu20 said:

Aesthetics and ease of use have been much more important than pure perf.

ease of use is really something they havent got nailed down, i have a Supremacy Evo and mounting it is only beat in strangeness by BeQuiet and their plastic stuff. the design of the mounting also makes the springs scratch the mounting plate while installing or removeing it and the manual was pretty strange. Then we come to the jet and jet plate which were pretty unclear because there was barely any distinction between them so it was hard to know which one was the right one... looks i dont think they win personally but thats entirely subjective and i know a lot of people really like the look of the EK blocks. I have also had quality issues with mine, it came with the copper already oxidised and quite a few of the fins were bent to shit and EK support just said: "yah this is normal, deal with it" lol

6 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

And can you prove that? 

yep http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/04/22/watercool-heatkiller-iv-cpu-water-block-review/5/

[Terryv]

2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

yah. but there are a hell of a lot of ways to make water flow throgh the milled chanels, you could also up fin densety, or lower it it add jet plates and so on. a waterblock isnt just a pice of copper. you can also make the baseplate thicker, thinner, experiment with alloys and so on... there is a lot to a waterblock and while performance improvements arent super easy to make someone has to do the RnD

ease of use is really something they havent got nailed down, i have a Supremacy Evo and mounting it is only beat in strangeness by BeQuiet and their plastic stuff. the design of the mounting also makes the springs scratch the mounting plate while installing or removeing it and the manual was pretty strange. Then we come to the jet and jet plate which were pretty unclear because there was barely any distinction between them so it was hard to know which one was the right one... looks i dont think they win personally but thats entirely subjective and i know a lot of people really like the look of the EK blocks. I have also had quality issues with mine, it came with the copper already oxidised and quite a few of the fins were bent to shit and EK support just said: "yah this is normal, deal with it" lol

yep http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/04/22/watercool-heatkiller-iv-cpu-water-block-review/5/

A ~2% variance is well within margin of error in that kind of testing environment.

 

Ignoring the XPSC block, I would rate these results effectively identical.

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[Bananasplit_00]

2 minutes ago, Terryv said:

A ~2% variance is well within margin of error in that kind of testing environment.

Quote

Thermal performance was tested on an overclocked i7-4930K running at 4.6GHz. 3 mounts of each orientation was done to determine the ‘best’ orientation. Then a further 3 mounts were done only on the ‘best’ orientation. Of these 6 results the worst one is thrown away. In other words one bad mount is allowed as human error, but two bad mounts is assumed to be the fault of the mounting hardware and will impact results. The TIM used was Arctic Cooling MX2 – this TIM has a low cure time and is easily spreadable and has a low mount to mount variation. The TIM is burned in for an hour with a custom Prime95 run to allow it to cure and then thermal data is logged every second for thirty minutes. All 6 CPU core temperatures are logged by RealTemp, while the coolant temperature is measured by an Aquaero 6 and logged by HWiNFO. While the Aquaero isn’t the most accurate device for logging temperatures – given the standard deviation of the results and the higher temperature deltas in question it is “good enough”.  During all of this testing pump power is fixed and hence flow varies slightly depending on the block in question.  Flow rate for all blocks is typically slightly less than 1.5GPM.

besides the use of the shitty TIM, this is a pretty solid method IMO, and a the diferance is about 5%, not 2% which id say is well outside margin of error here, its a mesurable decrese in temerature that is clearly picked up on.

5 minutes ago, Terryv said:

Ignoring the XPSC block, I would rate these results effectively identical.

all but the older model of Heatkiller from Watercool and the XPSC block are IMO clearly better performing, i cant say id consider them within margin of error really

[Mick Naughty]

Don't see how their positions will effect r&d.

[Tech22]

On 12/16/2017 at 9:08 AM, Ginger137 said:

I wonder if this means Corsair plans on getting into custom loops

They showed off watercooling gear at Computex 2017.

[AnonymousGuy]

On 12/16/2017 at 6:57 AM, Bananasplit_00 said:

the CPU blocks almost entirely the same since 2012(didnt check before then), the GPU blocks are copy pasta with diffrent milled base plates to mount to the cards, i dont see much inovation here

Agree, EK is very mediocre nowadays but it's the biggest "brand" so everyone goes with them.  Heatkiller IV Pro, Koolance 390Ci, Kryos NEXT are all blocks that are superior quality and performance over EK.

 

And the fact that EK can go fuck themselves for not offering non-monoblock VRM blocks anymore, when we need them the most.  Too busy designing shitty aluminum kits for poor kiddies to feel like they're grown up.