400 dollar build (no graphics card)

[RyanCyan]

I am going to sell an old Alienware for around 400 dollars. I have an additional 50 saved up. My budget is 450 for this build. I also would like to add a mid range graphics card in the future. Until I get the money for a graphics card, I will use the computer for basic photo/video rendering and casual internet browsing.

Any good build recommendations?

thanks

[hconverse02]

Well you can't go ryzen without a graphics card, but I still want to recommend it...if you wait for b360 boards then you could get a i5 8400

[RyanCyan]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

Well you can't go ryzen without a graphics card, but I still want to recommend it...if you wait for b360 boards then you could get a i5 8400

how come? I've never heard that before..

[Tsuki]

1 minute ago, roothadude said:

how come? I've never heard that before..

ryzen doesnt have integrated graphics like intel does.

[hconverse02]

Just now, roothadude said:

how come? I've never heard that before..

Ryzen doesn't have what's called an igpu, or an integrated graphics processor on the actual cpu, so there is no video output from the physical chip, hence the need for some sort of discreet graphics card (maybe you could borrow one or use a dirt cheap gt 610 or something)

[Droidbot]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 HD3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($81.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $492.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 22:19 EST-0500

 

this is assuming you can scrape together another $50 or wait for b360 boards

 

1 minute ago, roothadude said:

how come? I've never heard that before..

ryzen doesn't have a dedicated gpu

[RyanCyan]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 HD3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($81.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $492.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 22:19 EST-0500

 

this is assuming you can scrape together another $50 or wait for b360 boards

 

ryzen doesn't have a dedicated gpu

Yep, I am in no hurry. Could def get an extra 50 in. Thanks for the build, seems the i5 8400 is the best route in this price range. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($87.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GT 620 1GB Video Card  ($24.37 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Case: Rosewill - RANGER-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($17.72 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $453.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 22:25 EST-0500

[WebPlayz]

14 minutes ago, roothadude said:

I am going to sell an old Alienware for around 400 dollars. I have an additional 50 saved up. My budget is 450 for this build. I also would like to add a mid range graphics card in the future. Until I get the money for a graphics card, I will use the computer for basic photo/video rendering and casual internet browsing.

Any good build recommendations?

thanks

Lemme help out  

[WebPlayz]

19 minutes ago, roothadude said:

I am going to sell an old Alienware for around 400 dollars. I have an additional 50 saved up. My budget is 450 for this build. I also would like to add a mid range graphics card in the future. Until I get the money for a graphics card, I will use the computer for basic photo/video rendering and casual internet browsing.

Any good build recommendations?

thanks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9qFfYr

[Guest]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4RWGsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4RWGsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 HD3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($81.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Xion - XON-350_BK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $486.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-12 22:36 EST-0500

 

Here is a good build with the i5-8400 which includes integrated graphics. You would only need an extra $26.00

 

EDIT:

Here is an alternative build of which has the i3-8100 if you want something cheaper to save some money. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HWp9hq

[emosun]

What's in the old alienware?

If you're only buying new parts 450$ is going to get you either a slow new machine or fast old machine.

[RyanCyan]

10 minutes ago, emosun said:

What's in the old alienware?

If you're only buying new parts 450$ is going to get you either a slow new machine or fast old machine.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/6163650

I can't really afford a AAA PC gaming anymore, back in the day this pc could run it. I am just looking for a casual build until I can afford a decent graphics card and get back into gaming. 

[ShoByte]

I still think the ryzen would be a better buy. Do you have some old pci-e video card lying around?

[RyanCyan]

1 minute ago, ShoByte said:

I still think the ryzen would be a better buy. Do you have some old pci-e video card lying around?

really? I looked it up and it seemed the i5 8500 would be better: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3939vs3919

[Droidbot]

Just now, roothadude said:

really? I looked it up and it seemed the i5 8500 would be better: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3939vs3919

to clarify, the 8400 is better at gaming. 

 

if you do any sort of heavy multitasking / rendering the 1600 is better but not by much. 

[emosun]

6 minutes ago, roothadude said:

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/6163650

I can't really afford a AAA PC gaming anymore, back in the day this pc could run it. I am just looking for a casual build until I can afford a decent graphics card and get back into gaming. 

From what i can see that alienware isn't that bad. Replacing it with a machine that is only going to be used for basic tasks.... isn't going to be much of a change. 

 

I think if you literally just put more ram and an ssd and freshen up the os in the alienware you could have a decent basic tasks machine until you have more cash in the future.

essentially you can always move the ssd you buy over to the new build anyway

[RyanCyan]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

From what i can see that alienware isn't that bad. Replacing it with a machine that is only going to be used for basic tasks.... isn't going to be much of a change. 

 

I think if you literally just put more ram and an ssd and freshen up the os in the alienware you could have a decent basic tasks machine until you have more cash in the future.

essentially you can always move the ssd you buy over to the new build anyway

yes, for basic tasks until I can afford a good graphics card. 

[ShoByte]

By better buy I meant cheaper, it's not that far behind the 8400. Just OC the ryzen.