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[Cheato]

I am upgrading my pc and I have a low budget. 

 

Pretty much for Christmas I am getting a 1070 or a 1070 ti and I have a sh!t cpu. I already have enough money to upgrade my cpu to an i5 7600k, and to change my case. But I am also upgrading to ddr4 from ddr3 and I don't know anything about trading in ram or what motherboard to buy, so I was wondering what could I do to trade in my old parts, and whether or not I have to scrape up more money. Here are My Pc specs so you guys can give me advice on what to trade in or what to do.

 

Pc Specs:

CPU: A 5th gen core i3 that has like 4.0 ghz but only 2 cores...

MotherBoard: Some old ass MSI DDR3 board that cost like 200 bucks, but it has problems in bios and its slightly damaged so probably not a good trade-in item.

GPU: r9 280x (I have two of these sort of, but one of them is older and has some problems connecting to a monitor sometimes)

Memory: 16gb corsair vengeance LPX (2x8gb)

Case: some cooler master box case that is NOT micro ATX

Power Supply: 1200w corsair (yes, it's overkill)

 

I AM MAINLY TRYING TO GO FOR A LOWER BUDGET SO I CAN SELL MY OLD PARTS AND GET NEW ONES THAT WILL WORK GREAT WITH MY NEW GPU.

 

 

 

Also My Power supply and storage are completely fine rn.

[PineyCreek]

You might want to provide full specs on what you currently have, including case.  That will provide a starting point so we see how the changes will affect you.  The case is important for more than cosmetics as well, including cable management, airflow, etc.

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Cheato said:

 

Kaby Lake is dead don't buy Kaby Lake

 

Your GPU is mostly fine for 1080p 60hz gaming

 

Probably just upgrade to an R5 1600 and call it a day.

What's your monitor set up?

[Legolessed]

3 minutes ago, Cheato said:

I am upgrading my pc and I have a low budget. 

 

Pretty much for Christmas I am getting a 1070 or a 1070 ti and I have a sh!t cpu. I already have enough money to upgrade my cpu to an i5 7600k, and to change my case. But I am also upgrading to ddr4 from ddr3 and I don't know anything about trading in ram or what motherboard to buy, so I was wondering what could I do to trade in my old parts, and whether or not I have to scrape up more money. Here are My Pc specs so you guys can give me advice on what to trade in or what to do.

 

Pc Specs:

CPU: A 5th gen core i3 that has like 4.0 ghz but only 2 cores...

MotherBoard: Some old ass MSI DDR3 board that cost like 200 bucks, but it has problems in bios and its slightly damaged so probably not a good trade-in item.

GPU: r9 280x (I have two of these sort of, but one of them is older and has some problems connecting to a monitor sometimes)

Memory: 16gb corsair vengeance LPX (2x8gb)

 

 

Also My Power supply and storage are completely fine rn.

Ok this is my opinion. I would see what you can get for the money. I mean do you have a budget or are you just getting stuff around that cost?

[Cheato]

Just now, Legolessed said:

Ok this is my opinion. I would see what you can get for the money. I mean do you have a budget or are you just getting stuff around that cost?

I'm trying to find a reasonable way to upgrade my pc so that my new 1070 won't bottle neck my cpu.

Also I didn't mean to say "budget" I'm trying to spend my cash on a new cpu, and sell the rest of my parts to upgrade to DDR4 (so I can have compatibility with my cpu)

[Cheato]

5 minutes ago, PineyCreek said:

You might want to provide full specs on what you currently have, including case.  That will provide a starting point so we see how the changes will affect you.  The case is important for more than cosmetics as well, including cable management, airflow, etc.

Thanks I'll edit

[Legolessed]

Just now, Cheato said:

I'm trying to find a reasonable way to upgrade my pc so that my new 1070 won't bottle neck my cpu.

Also I didn't mean to say "budget" I'm trying to spend my cash on a new cpu, and sell the rest of my parts to upgrade to DDR4 (so I can have compatibility with my cpu)

Ok. I mean honestly i agree with @Streetguru upgrade to a r5 1600 and call it a day.

[Cheato]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Kaby Lake is dead don't buy Kaby Lake

 

Your GPU is mostly fine for 1080p 60hz gaming

 

Probably just upgrade to an R5 1600 and call it a day.

What's your monitor set up?

The thing is my GPU is from 2013 and it's for mining not gaming, I have all gaming gear with a 144hz monitor and an extra 70 hz monitor, It can run games like csgo rocket league, and even destiny 2 or gta V fine, but I could really use and upgrade to get a solid 144hz minimum on certain games.

[Streetguru]

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[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Cheato said:

 

Too bad RAM pricing is still terrible
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RJQbzM
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RJQbzM/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $454.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-11 01:07 EST-0500

[Cheato]

Just now, Streetguru said:

It sounds like the 1070 hasn't been purchased yet

Is your display only 1080p 60hz?

Because for the cost of a 1070/ti you could get an RX 570/580 + 1080p 144hz display

Do you have a full budget for everything?

Yes My 1070 is arriving on Christmas.

I'm not trying to upgrade gear, only my pc specs, I'm just trying to figure out a way to work around scraping up more money to upgrade when I could just sell my parts and buy new ones.

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Cheato said:

Yes My 1070 is arriving on Christmas.

I'm not trying to upgrade gear, only my pc specs, I'm just trying to figure out a way to work around scraping up more money to upgrade when I could just sell my parts and buy new ones.

Why not just take some of the 1070 money and downgrade it for an RX 570/580? Still perfectly fine for 1080p gaming

[Cheato]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Too bad RAM pricing is still terrible
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RJQbzM
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RJQbzM/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $454.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-11 01:07 EST-0500

Thanks, I sort of avoided Ryzen (because of bad customer service in the past) But wow a 3.2ghz 6-core for 200 bucks, I am probably going to switch. Also I was thinking of using a brand that's not corsair for ram so that I don't spend too much money (but the ram you posted is the same price as corsair vengeance, but worse in specs). And I just edited it, but I am avoiding micro ATX so basically and good motherboard is already over 110 bucks, and lastly, I just wanted to say that I am going to make my original post more clear, but I want parts that are either black, white( only a hint) or blue so yeah.

[xg32]

why is kaby lake ur only option when u have to change mobo also, 6600k and 7700k is dead unless u have an existing motherboard.

 

The best budget solution right now for a 1070 is r5 1600 (250 for board+cpu, includes heatsink), or if u can scrape together enough money, a 8700 (non-k) with an asus board with MCE (probably 500 for board+cpu)

 

The best target setup with 1070+r5 1600 would be 1080p 60hz/120hz/144hz. or 1440p 60hz

[Cheato]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Why not just take some of the 1070 money and downgrade it for an RX 570/580? Still perfectly fine for 1080p gaming

I already ordered it and I'm not trying to downgrade, Im trying to upgrade, I just don't want to spend more money on buying ram and a motherboard, but instead try to sell my old parts.

[Cheato]

1 minute ago, xg32 said:

why is kaby lake ur only option when u have to change mobo also, 6600k and 7700k is dead unless u have an existing motherboard.

 

The best budget solution right now for a 1070 is r5 1600 (250 for board+cpu, includes heatsink), or if u can scrape together enough money, a 8700 (non-k) with an asus board with MCE (probably 500 for board+cpu)

 

The best target setup with 1070+r5 1600 would be 1080p 60hz/120hz/144hz.

THank you so much, I've already decided to switch, I am sort of uneasy with ryzen( because they haven't treate me personally so nice) but I am going to switch, this is really helpful and cheaper, thanks again.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Cheato said:

 

Really wouldn't care about aesthetics until your budget is like $10,000 maybe.

There's Ryzen scaling, it's just about the best CPUs for the money, Coffee Lake usually costs more but will be a bit better for 144hz, say 100fps for Ryzen vs 120+fps for CL
 

And there's the best AM4 boards
 

 

[Cheato]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Really wouldn't care about aesthetics until your budget is like $10,000 maybe.

There's Ryzen scaling, it's just about the best CPUs for the money, Coffee Lake usually costs more but will be a bit better for 144hz, say 100fps for Ryzen vs 120+fps for CL
 

And there's the best AM4 boards
 

 

Thank you guys so much, I am already editing my list of things, I am .noob when it comes to Ryzen or AMD so this is super helpful. Also one more question, will the r51600 work with a 1070 ti? or will the card bottle neck it, and if OC is the way to go, which is the cheapest motherboard that I can pickup by selling my previous parts.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Cheato said:

Thank you guys so much, I am already editing my list of things, I am .noob when it comes to Ryzen or AMD so this is super helpful. Also one more question, will the r51600 work with a 1070 ti? or will the card bottle neck it, and if OC is the way to go, which is the cheapest motherboard that I can pickup by selling my previous parts.

The ASrock Pro 4 is likely the cheapest and bare minimum MOBO you want for Ryzen, will need a fan over the VRM for overclocking

 

CPUs bottleneck Refresh Rate

GPUs bottleneck Resolution/Quality settings

Just look up CPU benchmarks for whatever games you play, with a 1070 tier GPU there shouldn't be as big a gap between Ryzen/Coffee Lake than with a 1080ti

[Cheato]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Really wouldn't care about aesthetics until your budget is like $10,000 maybe.

There's Ryzen scaling, it's just about the best CPUs for the money, Coffee Lake usually costs more but will be a bit better for 144hz, say 100fps for Ryzen vs 120+fps for CL
 

And there's the best AM4 boards
 

 

And the one LAST LAST question, will the 1070 or 1070 ti bottle neck a r5 1500x ( the cheaper option) or not, and how much better is the 1600 than the 1500x since they are only like 10-20 dollars apart in price

[Streetguru]

Just now, Cheato said:

And the one LAST LAST question, will the 1070 or 1070 ti bottle neck a r5 1500x ( the cheaper option) or not, and how much better is the 1600 than the 1500x since they are only like 10-20 dollars apart in price

The video there specifically shows how Ryzen scales in games, your choice is between the R5 1400 and 1600, none of the X CPUs are worth it, probably just get the 1600

[Cheato]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The ASrock Pro 4 is likely the cheapest and bare minimum MOBO you want for Ryzen, will need a fan over the VRM for overclocking

 

CPUs bottleneck Refresh Rate

GPUs bottleneck Resolution/Quality settings

Just look up CPU benchmarks for whatever games you play, with a 1070 tier GPU there shouldn't be as big a gap between Ryzen/Coffee Lake than with a 1080ti

thanks

 

[Cheato]

Just now, Streetguru said:

The video there specifically shows how Ryzen scales in games, your choice is between the R5 1400 and 1600, none of the X CPUs are worth it, probably just get the 1600

k thanks

[Cheato]

K then, thank you guys, the good thing is I will have a good pc with goos specs because of you guys, but the bad news is I probably wont be OCing my CPU, but that doesn;t matter to me, I just like playing video games so yeah, thanks a lot and goodnight.

[xg32]

6 minutes ago, Cheato said:

Thank you guys so much, I am already editing my list of things, I am .noob when it comes to Ryzen or AMD so this is super helpful. Also one more question, will the r51600 work with a 1070 ti? or will the card bottle neck it, and if OC is the way to go, which is the cheapest motherboard that I can pickup by selling my previous parts.

ryzen cpu isnt great above 80-90 fps, for motherboard i recommend the asus b350 prime, use the stock cooler, oc the cpu to 3.7ghz, gpu is up to u, if u are aiming for 120fps+ go with intel. a 1070 is enough for 1440p 60fps, 1080p 120hz, with amd u could also get a  freesync monitor. pretty good for a 250dollar cpu/mobo combo (im assuming the 1600 is 179 like over the holidays.