New build - disappointing fps

[warlock257]

Hi.

I just put a new system together, but notice very little difference between that, and my old system. In benchmarks for Ghost recon Wildlands, my fps was actually lower than before.

Temperatures are pretty good, not going much over 50C under load, so it's not a thermal throttle.

Old system:

AMD FX 8350 8 core

24gb DDR 3 ram

GTX 1080

 

New system

i5 8400 coffee lake

16 GB DDR 4 ram

GTX 1080

Gigabytle Aorus Gaming 5 motherboard Z370

 

My new system is pretty close to the system in this video with a 1070 instead of a 1080, and it's getting around double what i'm getting.

Ideas?

Thanks

[TheNuzziNuzz]

Bad Drivers? Faulty video card? Does it have a warranty? Try contacting support? Maybe its the game? Is it thermal throttling?

 

Check for thermal throttle by watching temps while under load. It should not be more than 80 degrees Celsius. Are its fans even spinning?

[sauce-c]

Use DDU to uninstall the GPU drivers then install the latest ones, or do a fresh installation of windows if you haven't. 

[unknownmiscreant]

What version of Windows are you running? I noticed an improvement upgrading from anniversary to creators. 

 

If the systems new, I'd just do a clean install of windows anyway. Whilst you can switch hardware, it causes a multitude of problems later on. 

[SALEEN961]

The video you linked was 1080p benchmarks, you're running the game on ULTRA at 4K, with a 1080Ti I can't run Ultra at 1440p and have to turn down some settings to very high to stay above 60FPS. Turn down the settings or the resolution, there's else wrong.

[Vandorlot]

its at 4k ultra. In 4k the gpu is the bottlenck and the cpu is barely used which is why since you only upgraded the cpu you arent getting much of a performance boost. At 1080 or 1440 youd do much better with the new system.

[unknownmiscreant]

30 minutes ago, Vandorlot said:

its at 4k ultra. In 4k the gpu is the bottlenck and the cpu is barely used which is why since you only upgraded the cpu you arent getting much of a performance boost. At 1080 or 1440 youd do much better with the new system.

There's still something wrong. Maybe not much, but take a look at the screenshots. 

[warlock257]

I'm on windows 10 Pro.

I moved my boot SSD from the old system to the new, but I did a windows reset once it was in the new system. Fresh driver installs for everything.

The video card is running driver 388.31

I checked the thermals, and both the CPU and GPU are around 50 degrees C. No where near overheating.

 

Yes, the video linked was 1080p benchmarks, but he was getting around 119 fps on a GTX 1070, where as I get 59 fps. on a 1080 in Rise of the tomb raider, with the same settings. I think I should be getting double what I'm getting, in both games.

[TurtleZero]

14 hours ago, warlock257 said:

I'm on windows 10 Pro.

I moved my boot SSD from the old system to the new, but I did a windows reset once it was in the new system. Fresh driver installs for everything.

The video card is running driver 388.31

I checked the thermals, and both the CPU and GPU are around 50 degrees C. No where near overheating.

 

Yes, the video linked was 1080p benchmarks, but he was getting around 119 fps on a GTX 1070, where as I get 59 fps. on a 1080 in Rise of the tomb raider, with the same settings. I think I should be getting double what I'm getting, in both games.

The latest drivers version for your card is 388.43. Might not make a difference, but try the upgrade anyway.

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/127265/en-us

[michelin_boi]

Those numbers seem fair for 4k at Ultra. Try 1080 or 1440 and I'm sure your performance will be fine. It's likely a GPU throttle. As for why your old system is showing better numbers, its hard to tell without multiple benchamarks between the two systems. Some benchmarks utlize memory more than others, some utilize more/fewer cores, and some are only on the GPU.

[warlock257]

21 hours ago, michelin_boi said:

Those numbers seem fair for 4k at Ultra. Try 1080 or 1440 and I'm sure your performance will be fine. It's likely a GPU throttle. As for why your old system is showing better numbers, its hard to tell without multiple benchamarks between the two systems. Some benchmarks utlize memory more than others, some utilize more/fewer cores, and some are only on the GPU.

Yeah, I can always lower the settings to improve performance. I just want to make sure I'm getting the most out of my hardware. I did just drop almost $1000 on upgrades, I would hope there would be at least some improvement. I have a hard time believing that upgrading from a 5 year old CPU, to a brand new one makes no difference at all.

[michelin_boi]

I tell this to a lot of my friends who say the same thing.

TLDR: GPU > CPU for gaming most of the time.

For a long time I was running an old AMD phenom series quad core processor and getting fantastic gaming results.

CPU upgrades have much less impact on gaming benchmarks than most people relize compared to a GPU upgrade.The building market takes advantage of this by marketing expensive CPU's to gamers uneccessarily. The benefit from upgrading you processor is seen in other places, like multitasking, video and effects rendering, streaming content, and other programs that require intense levels of CPU saturation. More cores is better for multitasking, andhigher clock speeds can help make calculations faster in a thread, but if you're running a midgrade CPU from the last 5 years you're likely fine for gaming alone.

Good luck, enjoy your 1080! (Its a good card.)

[warlock257]

3 hours ago, michelin_boi said:

I tell this to a lot of my friends who say the same thing.

TLDR: GPU > CPU for gaming most of the time.

For a long time I was running an old AMD phenom series quad core processor and getting fantastic gaming results.

CPU upgrades have much less impact on gaming benchmarks than most people relize compared to a GPU upgrade.The building market takes advantage of this by marketing expensive CPU's to gamers uneccessarily. The benefit from upgrading you processor is seen in other places, like multitasking, video and effects rendering, streaming content, and other programs that require intense levels of CPU saturation. More cores is better for multitasking, andhigher clock speeds can help make calculations faster in a thread, but if you're running a midgrade CPU from the last 5 years you're likely fine for gaming alone.

Good luck, enjoy your 1080! (Its a good card.)

Ok. I guess that's just how it is. I knew that GPU was more important that CPU for games, but I guess it's even more than I thought.

Kind of wish I went for a high refresh rate monitor instead of the 4K one, now.

At least my new rig is all cool and glow-ey. haha.

Thanks.