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So, I am looking to upgrade my rig, I have a list of parts, and I am curious if anyone has any buying tips, or things to know about these parts that I should know before buying. The graphics card is a 1070, not sure which one, so I didn't put it on there, as well as my hard drive I will be re-using. Thanks in advance for any help. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/koenc001/saved/3Ffm8d

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why not swap out the 850 SSD for a 960 M.2 drive? your MB supports it, and it's much much faster

 

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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You can also go with the 1600 and use the stock cooler to save some money, but other than that you're good to go. Get a good PSU.

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Nice build. Are you buying now? What's your budget? If you stretch it a bit you can get a 1700x, they're on sale with a really nice discount right now. There's also an X370 motherboard on sale for $99, and if the US has the same deal as Canada, you can take another $20 off an order of $200 or more. Making the 1700x only $259.99. I'd also get a better cooler, the 212 Evo isn't really that great.

7 minutes ago, VioDuskar said:

why not swap out the 850 SSD for a 960 M.2 drive? your MB supports it, and it's much much faster

 

NVME speeds are useless to 98% of users.

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6 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

You can also go with the 1600 and use the stock cooler to save some money, but other than that you're good to go. Get a good PSU.

Forgot about that, I have a 600(650?) Watt one, which should do just fine.

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Just now, dizmo said:

Nice build. Are you buying now? What's your budget? If you stretch it a bit you can get a 1700x, they're on sale with a really nice discount right now. There's also an X370 motherboard on sale for $99, and if the US has the same deal as Canada, you can take another $20 off an order of $200 or more. Making the 1700x only $259.99. I'd also get a better cooler, the 212 Evo isn't really that great.

NVME speeds are useless to 98% of users.

What would you recommend for coolers, not stock but still cheapish.

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1 minute ago, koenc001 said:

What would you recommend for coolers, not stock but still cheapish.

What's cheap to you? The H5 or H7 are both good choices and are pretty affordable.

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3 minutes ago, koenc001 said:

What would you recommend for coolers, not stock but still cheapish.

Cryorig H7 or Noctua NH-U12S

 

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Forgot how expensive the Noctua is
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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Nice build. Are you buying now? What's your budget? If you stretch it a bit you can get a 1700x, they're on sale with a really nice discount right now. There's also an X370 motherboard on sale for $99, and if the US has the same deal as Canada, you can take another $20 off an order of $200 or more. Making the 1700x only $259.99. I'd also get a better cooler, the 212 Evo isn't really that great.

NVME speeds are useless to 98% of users.

dat boot time doe.

 

while most people don't see a difference when browsing the internet, you will see a huge difference if games are loaded on it, and boot time is quicker than my POST time in my case. it also frees up SATA ports

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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The funny thing about the case, I needed one that was less than a certain height, and that ruled out 90% or so of them, so this was one of maybe 5 valid ones I found.

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Ok, swapped out the cooler and storage, anything else to know?

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This would probably be worth considering:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($255.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.00)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($139.00)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($139.00)
Total: $670.90

 

The prices are updated with NewEgg Black Friday pricing, live now. I included links below for you.

There's also a case in there, $20 (after rebates), but I'm not sure if it meets your size requirements.

It also includes the $25 discount from using MasterPass, not sure how hard that is to set up. I assume worth the $25.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313793&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119324&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144017&ignorebbr=1

 

4 minutes ago, VioDuskar said:

dat boot time doe.

 

while most people don't see a difference when browsing the internet, you will see a huge difference if games are loaded on it, and boot time is quicker than my POST time in my case. it also frees up SATA ports

Really? I'd love to see some reviews on that, because every single review I've seen has shown the opposite.

 

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

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Really? I'd love to see some reviews on that, because every single review I've seen has shown the opposite.

 

shown the opposite? like games load slower? like boot times are slower on an m.2 vs an SSD? like the m.2 takes up an SSD's SATA port?

what reviews are you talking about?

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

This would probably be worth considering:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($255.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($28.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.00)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($139.00)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($139.00)
Total: $670.90

 

The prices are updated with NewEgg Black Friday pricing, live now. I included links below for you.

There's also a case in there, $20 (after rebates), but I'm not sure if it meets your size requirements.

It also includes the $25 discount from using MasterPass, not sure how hard that is to set up. I assume worth the $25.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313793&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119324&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144017&ignorebbr=1

 

Really? I'd love to see some reviews on that, because every single review I've seen has shown the opposite.

 

Wow, um, well, that's pretty amazing lol. Thanks for the help, I will definitely be looking into those parts.

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shown the opposite? like games load slower? like boot times are slower on an m.2 vs an SSD? like the m.2 takes up an SSD's SATA port?

what reviews are you talking about?

No, they just dont load any faster than a SATA drive.

M.2 is a form factor, it has nothing to do with speed.

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Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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Wow, um, well, that's pretty amazing lol. Thanks for the help, I will definitely be looking into those parts.

Aye, if you look through their listings they have a ton of X370 boards also discounted, and a few are even cheaper.

It's really a great time to buy if you're going for an AMD build.

The RAM, SSD and cooler are all rebate free. If you can, try and get a friend to buy one bunch of parts, and you buy the other. You can save another $25 by placing two separate orders.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

No, they just dont load any faster than a SATA drive.

M.2 is a form factor, it has nothing to do with speed.

while m.2 is a form factor, the 960 m.2 is a PCI-e NVMe drive, and it's a butt-load (as in a whole wine barrel) faster to load anything from. 

show me a review where games load slower on ANY m.2 drive vs a comparable SSD.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

No, they just dont load any faster than a SATA drive.

M.2 is a form factor, it has nothing to do with speed.

upon some research, i can see that most gains in gaming are marginal but normal transfers are massively faster.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

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41 minutes ago, VioDuskar said:

upon some research, i can see that most gains in gaming are marginal but normal transfers are massively faster.

Aye, I couldn't find the initial review I read, but that was probably on the 950 not the 960 when it had throttling issues. I still don't quite see the usefulness though. I mean, if it was say $50 more at the 1TB level? Sure, absolutely. But I don't see the draw to save 6 seconds on a boot at lower capacities, and the $200 price increase is too high at the more useful capacities. It is the future, just like Optane, I just don't think it's ready for most builds yet. I really hope Optane rapidly overtakes it rapidly though :P That endurance... 

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

Spoiler

 

CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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