Have some questions about the r5 lineup

[Wolther]

My eyes are on Ryzen 5. Was looking at the 1500x and 1400 versions. The only difference I can see is the speed (3.2 vs 3.5). 

I found out they can be overclocked on the B350 chipset. So I was also wondering how far they can overclock, and if the 1400 version will be able to overclock past the 1500x, or if the 1500x has a better overclocking advantage. 

 

Main reason for the upgrade decision (going from an i3 6100) is that I want to be able to stream community tournament matches and be able to record video at a better bitrate. So I'm hoping the 4c8t will be better. I don't think Intel has better options for the money but I could be wrong. 

[LienusLateTips]

Different amounts of cache, just go for the 1400 or go up to the 1600.

[genexis_x]

IMO 1400 and 1500X not worth it, either go for 1200 or 1600

But if you really want to choose between 1400 and 1500X, I would take the 1400 and pair it with B350 to OC it (reach about the same performance with 1500X, 'X' CPUs doesn't have much OC headroom left)

Edit: If you want streaming, at least get the 1600

[Wolther]

7 minutes ago, JDE said:

Different amounts of cache, just go for the 1400 or go up to the 1600.

Thanks 

4 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

IMO 1400 and 1500X not worth it, either go for 1200 or 1600

But if you really want to choose between 1400 and 1500X, I would take the 1400 and pair it with B350 to OC it (reach about the same performance with 1500X, 'X' CPUs doesn't have much OC headroom left)

Thank you, you don't believe the "Multithreading" or whatever amd calls it is worth the extra ~$25? compared r3 to r5

[genexis_x]

3 minutes ago, Wolther said:

you don't believe the "Multithreading" or whatever amd calls it is worth the extra ~$25? compared r3 to r5

The 1600 is MUCH worth it IMO, 6c12t compared to 4c8t
If you purely do gaming then an OCed 1200 will serve you well

[Indus Monk]

22 minutes ago, Wolther said:

My eyes are on Ryzen 5. Was looking at the 1500x and 1400 versions. The only difference I can see is the speed (3.2 vs 3.5). 

I found out they can be overclocked on the B350 chipset. So I was also wondering how far they can overclock, and if the 1400 version will be able to overclock past the 1500x, or if the 1500x has a better overclocking advantage. 

 

Main reason for the upgrade decision (going from an i3 6100) is that I want to be able to stream community tournament matches and be able to record video at a better bitrate. So I'm hoping the 4c8t will be better. I don't think Intel has better options for the money but I could be wrong. 

Remember to update your AM4 BIOS. It will allow for better overclocking and will also improve system performance

[Wolther]

5 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

Remember to update your AM4 BIOS. It will allow for better overclocking and will also improve system performance

Thank you 

[SquintyG33Rs]

34 minutes ago, Wolther said:

My eyes are on Ryzen 5. Was looking at the 1500x and 1400 versions. The only difference I can see is the speed (3.2 vs 3.5). 

I found out they can be overclocked on the B350 chipset. So I was also wondering how far they can overclock, and if the 1400 version will be able to overclock past the 1500x, or if the 1500x has a better overclocking advantage. 

 

Main reason for the upgrade decision (going from an i3 6100) is that I want to be able to stream community tournament matches and be able to record video at a better bitrate. So I'm hoping the 4c8t will be better. I don't think Intel has better options for the money but I could be wrong. 

actually these 2 cpus are the only ones that have a difference in the ryzen lineup (when comparing same core/thread parts) they have different cache amounts that make the 1500x actually more worth it. while for all the others 1600 and 1700 etc they are just clock differences that an Overclock will inevitably out perform. so in this single case the 1500x is better to get for complex reason on why cache matters that are much too long to explain here. but the 1600 is also still a better buy

[Brooksie359]

If at all possible get the r5 1600. The difference between it and a 1500x is quite large and the price difference is almost nonexistent.

[Wolther]

1600 is a 44% price increase for a 36% performance gain (comparing to a 1400). It's not bad, but it's also a whole tier up. I'll see how black Friday sales goes with other things I plan to get ppl for Christmas and see where I end up from there. Everyone has been a big help and I got the info I needed. Thank you 

@Brooksie359

@SquintyG33Rs

[wimpy]

Try to factor in the motherboard and ram cost. In norway there is a 16% price increase with 1600, DDR4  and B350, or 24% increase if only buying 1600 and B350. 

[Jon Jon]

I would get the R5 1600 at the minimum of you want to stream and record at the same time.

 

Depending on the bit rate and CPU presets, streaming and recording at the same time can hammer my overclocked R7.

[Brooksie359]

12 hours ago, Wolther said:

1600 is a 44% price increase for a 36% performance gain (comparing to a 1400). It's not bad, but it's also a whole tier up. I'll see how black Friday sales goes with other things I plan to get ppl for Christmas and see where I end up from there. Everyone has been a big help and I got the info I needed. Thank you 

@Brooksie359

@SquintyG33Rs

You fail to account for the whole system build. I highly doubt the price of the 1400 to a 1600 is a 44% increase in the total build price. I mean if the cpus cost 10 dollars and 20 dollars respectively and you are spending 800 dollars on the entire pc you would still get the 1600 because although it is a 100% increase in price when comparing the parts individually when comparing a 800 dollar pc to a 810 dollar pc the price difference is almost none and the performance difference is big. Now that is an exaggerated scenario but the point being that you need to take into consideration the total build price.

[Wolther]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

You fail to account for the whole system build. I highly doubt the price of the 1400 to a 1600 is a 44% increase in the total build price. I mean if the cpus cost 10 dollars and 20 dollars respectively and you are spending 800 dollars on the entire pc you would still get the 1600 because although it is a 100% increase in price when comparing the parts individually when comparing a 800 dollar pc to a 810 dollar pc the price difference is almost none and the performance difference is big. Now that is an exaggerated scenario but the point being that you need to take into consideration the total build price.

Like I said in the original post it's an upgrade. 

 

6 hours ago, Jon Jon said:

I would get the R5 1600 at the minimum of you want to stream and record at the same time.

 

Depending on the bit rate and CPU presets, streaming and recording at the same time can hammer my overclocked R7.

I'm sure, I'll take it into account 

[Brooksie359]

4 hours ago, Wolther said:

Like I said in the original post it's an upgrade. 

 

I'm sure, I'll take it into account 

Then did you take your mobo price into account as well when calculating?