TN vs IPS panel

[EXALTED oreo]

Hi everyone,

 

When it comes to a high end TN panel vs a IPS panel. Is the loss in viewing angle worth the slow down in pixel response time?

[TrigrH]

2 minutes ago, EXALTED oreo said:

When it comes to a high end TN panel vs a IPS panel. Is the loss in viewing angle worth the slow down in pixel response time?

That depends on you no? As serious as a gamer I am I still rather take the slower response time for better colours and viewing angles, but thats just me.

[iamdarkyoshi]

I'd personally rather have a slightly slower IPS than a faster TN if both were priced the same. But they usually aren't, hence why I'm using TN panels on my desktop.

 

My laptops all have IPS panels and I really can't notice a difference in response time, but the viewing angles and colours are soooo much better than my desktop's panels.

[gbergeron]

Go for IPS

 

Unless you are a pro CS GO player (even that, I feel like it's placebo effect but yeah... )

[Streetguru]

16 minutes ago, EXALTED oreo said:

 

You won't notice the change in pixel response time

 

IPS is pretty much always better to get than TN.

[Pepega]

reponse time doesnt mean anything if you have high input lag. Some IPS panel(PG279Q) outperforms TN panels. 

[EXALTED oreo]

1 hour ago, gbergeron said:

Go for IPS

 

Unless you are a pro CS GO player (even that, I feel like it's placebo effect but yeah... )

I use my monitor for super smash bros melee netplay. Do you think i will feel the difference here?

[moidave]

Went from an older Acer 1200p TN to the Asus 4K IPS, and much more than the 4K, IPS was amazing. The thing is, unless you compare them side by side, it is quite hard to understand the difference. The colors were so much more vibrant and beautiful on the IPS. However, I am comparing a 10+ years old monitor to a quite new one, so my TN may not have been good to start with. I hear that nowadays good TN panels are almost as good as regular IPS. 

 

You should check online reviews of a specific monitor. 

 

[79wjd]

9 minutes ago, moidave said:

Went from an older Acer 1200p TN to the Asus 4K IPS, and much more than the 4K, IPS was amazing. The thing is, unless you compare them side by side, it is quite hard to understand the difference. The colors were so much more vibrant and beautiful on the IPS. However, I am comparing a 10+ years old monitor to a quite new one, so my TN may not have been good to start with. I hear that nowadays good TN panels are almost as good as regular IPS. 

 

You should check online reviews of a specific monitor. 

 

TN today looks much better than it used to, but IPS still looks noticeably nicer. My P2414H looks much nicer than my XL2411z. Both of which are pretty good panels.

[Andrewtst]

IPS always. (2nd option VA, always NO for me to TN)

 

Manufacture just use more cheaper production cost TN panel and selling with expensive price just because of that respond time by brainwash consumer yeah! TN can do 1ms and it is damn important but in-fact it is not that important.

[johnukguy]

I couldn't go back to TN after using IPS panels. The lag is really not noticeable with even a  half decent IPS and the colour and overall image quality is just so much better.  I game quite a bit, including FPS and there is no real difference in gameplay at all. Plus you can get cheap Korean panels, for both 1440p and 4K that are much cheaper than the rip off brand name prices and they are also often overclockable.

[Alina Satis]

On 17.11.2017 at 6:51 AM, djdwosk97 said:

My P2414H looks much nicer than my XL2411z. Both of which are pretty good panels.

They are good, but in different aspects. I own a 2411Z myself and it does not have a good color reproduction or in general a nice 'picture quality' except for the performance. I'm talking about the refresh and it's strobing ability, both are really pulling on the acutal eye candy. On my model the colors wash out drastically when I go up from 60 Hz which is the reason I finally decided to buy an U2417H  I'm actually on 60Hz since weeks bc of the colors and I got used to it again.. belive it or not...

 

 TL DR, the 2411Z (in my opinon) is a raw performance panel and nothing else.

 

@EXALTED oreo Pixel response is important aswell but I'd say refresh rate is more important overall. A 60Hz panel won't stand a chance against any high refresh, even 75 or 100 Hz, in terms of raw performance. Also I wan't to mention that high performance, or refresh rate, models that 'look good' are expensive.

[79wjd]

3 hours ago, Alina Satis said:

They are good, but in different aspects. I own a 2411Z myself and it does not have a good color reproduction or in general a nice 'picture quality' except for the performance. I'm talking about the refresh and it's strobing ability, both are really pulling on the acutal eye candy. On my model the colors wash out drastically when I go up from 60 Hz which is the reason I finally decided to buy an U2417H  

Maybe your Xl2411z was just a bad sample, because mine is pretty good -- not as good as my P2414H, but still good. I'm also honestly very disappointed (well, expectedly so) with my P2414H compared to my rMBP display. 1080p is really just awful at 24" (which I already knew, but I wasn't going 4k for a few reasons), and the colors just aren't remotely as good (again, expected).

3 hours ago, Alina Satis said:

I'm actually on 60Hz since weeks bc of the colors and I got used to it again.. belive it or not...

I do believe that, I personally value colors a lot more than refresh rate and if I could go back to when I bought it and stop myself, I certainly would. 

 

[ThorThe1]

If we're talking about a laptop then I would always say IPS. You would tend to be sitting with the laptop at different table heights, or the screen at different angle, or if you stand at a desk etc, you'll be at different angles more often. 
For a Monitor, to me, it depends. I have a 28" Samsung 4K TN panel and it looks great, I almost always sit at the same height and never move around that much to where the color changes. If you can afford the IPS panel, go for it, but if you have a strict budget, the TN isn't a bad choice. The response time isn't that huge unless you are talking about playing in tournaments where you need that twitching speed in an FPS.   

[Alina Satis]

@djdwosk97 Okay, I haven't considered that tbh. I was reading about this problem though, people complaining about vibrancy at higher refresh rates. My question would be, does your picture shift aswell?

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, Alina Satis said:

@djdwosk97 Okay, I haven't considered that tbh. I was reading about this problem though, people complaining about vibrancy at higher refresh rates. My question would be, does your picture shift aswell?

Shifting is an issue with all TN panels, even the best of the best TN panels have color shift.

[cluelessgenius]

well that depends on the type of person you are. if you are 10 hours a day on cs:go or something then you might want a fast TN but me for example im not a hardcore gamer anymore and i use my pc way more for non-gaming now than gaming and when i game its not competitve or anything i play to enjoy and take my time with games like mass effect etc. and for that i  love my ips. the viewing angles are way better and iam gaming on all wireless peripherals too soo yeah i not the guy whos gonna complain about "lag"- very casual.

[IMI4tth3w]

My experience with higher end TN has been great thus far with my S2716DG. I went from a 40" 4K VA monitor that had atrocious response times. While i was using the 40" 4K i wasn't really playing games that needed the faster response times. But I started playing Overwatch last year and could REALLY feel it. Sure the 40" 4K is way prettier with its VA panel and higher pixel count, but i've been very satisfied with the picture quality of the dell's TN panel.

 

I have minimal experience with higher end IPS panels, at least until my new Alienware UW monitor comes in. Other than that, my other experience is with my dell i7559 laptop that came from the factory with a 1080p 60Hz IPS panel. I found online that people were swapping it with a 1080p 120Hz TN panel and followed suit. The difference in input lag in games like Overwatch is substantial. But i cannot be sure if that difference was because i went from IPS to TN or i went 60hz to 120hz (probably more the latter than the former)

[Alina Satis]

@djdwosk97 I think you misunderstood, I was talking about a worse picture quality when you bump up the refresh. I know that TN panels are shifting heavily depending on viewingangles

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, Alina Satis said:

@djdwosk97 I think you misunderstood, I was talking about a worse picture quality when you bump up the refresh. I know that TN panels are shifting heavily depending on viewingangles

Oh....I haven't noticed anything with that, although in fairness I never switched back and forth to compare.

[Alina Satis]

6 minutes ago, IMI4tth3w said:

[...] But i cannot be sure if that difference was because i went from IPS to TN or i went 60hz to 120hz

Pixel responsiveness plays a role indeed but I'm pretty sure it's the refresh.