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The reason why Coffee Lake is "rare" right now is due to the fact its original release date was February of 2018, Intel rushed things up to stop losing market share to AMD Ryzen since Kaby Lake was a weak sell.

 

Problem is that production of Coffee Lake is still minimum until February regardless while retailers also still need to ditch their stocks of Kaby Lake.

So I've been "commissioned" to setup VR for a family member and consequently build a machine capable of such a task.

I have been able to obtain a 300-series Mini ITX board and a total of around 90% of the components I need to build the computer, but I've noticed the processor I chose - the Intel Core i5-8400, isn't widely available and the resellers on Amazon asking way too much for such a processor of this calibre. The only place I've found the chip in question was on eBuyer but it says it won't be available until the 30th of November at the earliest!

 

Luckily I don't need to have the system ready 'till the 2nd-3rd week of December but I'm wondering why is this (or other Coffee Lake) processor(s)so rare? Even the US Amazon site doesn't have it listed except by resellers that are also asking a stupid amount for the processor. I'm tempted to go with Ryzen 5, but I would like to know why this chip is so limited.

 

Thanks in advance! ;)

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Musselwhite said:

So I've been "commissioned" to setup VR for a family member and consequently build a machine capable of such a task.

I have been able to obtain a 300-series Mini ITX board and a total of around 90% of the components I need to build the computer, but I've noticed the processor I chose - the Intel Core i5-8400, isn't widely available and the resellers on Amazon asking way too much for such a processor of this calibre. The only place I've found the chip in question was on eBuyer but it says it won't be available until the 30th of November at the earliest!

 

Luckily I don't need to have the system ready 'till the 2nd-3rd week of December but I'm wondering why is this (or other Coffee Lake) processor(s)so rare? Even the US Amazon site doesn't have it listed except by resellers that are also asking a stupid amount for the processor. I'm tempted to go with Ryzen 5, but I would like to know why this chip is so limited.

 

Thanks in advance! ;)

I kind of want to say that Intel is doing this with the same way Nintendo does it. They limit the stock, so more people would want to buy it.

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The reason why Coffee Lake is "rare" right now is due to the fact its original release date was February of 2018, Intel rushed things up to stop losing market share to AMD Ryzen since Kaby Lake was a weak sell.

 

Problem is that production of Coffee Lake is still minimum until February regardless while retailers also still need to ditch their stocks of Kaby Lake.

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I see... I might switch to Ryzen then and put up not testing out Coffee Lake then. Honestly though, it's not the worst thing to happen in the world.

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Musselwhite said:

I see... I might switch to Ryzen then and put up not testing out Coffee Lake then. Honestly though, it's not the worst thing to happen in the world.

An AMD Ryzen 5 1600 is a still a super solid competitor, depend the graphics card you were originally planning like a 1060, 1070 it is plenty CPU horse power already.

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

An AMD Ryzen 5 1600 is a still a super solid competitor, depend the graphics card you were originally planning like a 1060, 1070 it is plenty CPU horse power already.

That was the exact processor I was looking in the Ryzen line-up. I was planning to pair the Ryzen 5 (originally with the i5-8400) with 16GB of Corsair DDR4 memory and a 6GB ASUS GeForce GTX 1060.

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Just now, Matthew Musselwhite said:

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Coffee Lake would only make sense in my opinion if you went i5 8600k and a 1070 or higher, due to z370 chipset being the only available.

 

The i5 8400 would better suit when we have something like the micro-atx h310 boards already only coming in January.

 

With a 1060 the Ryzen will not be a limiting factor at all ^^

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Coffee Lake would only make sense in my opinion if you went i5 8600k and a 1070 or higher, due to z370 chipset being the only available.

 

The i5 8400 would better suit when we have something like the micro-atx h310 boards already only coming in January.

 

With a 1060 the Ryzen will not be a limiting factor at all ^^

That is is a pretty solid plan if you ask me. I'll return that Mini-ITX motherboard and buy a Ryzen 5 with a corresponding Mini-ITX board for the build. ^^

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