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9 minutes ago, Gaurav S Rao said:

i got a r3 since here a r5 was like almost double the cost of an r3.You're doing it wrong....


For more productivity/cpu dependant tasks,yes thats the case.....

For gaming,definately the opposite.A GPU matters more than the CPU.You can pair a 8100 with a 1060 and expect it to be good.You can pair a G4400 with a 1060-1070,it will be fine or it may have the slightest of bottlenecks not going to matter much in games.Your CPU definately lasts/has more usability in the future than you GPU that you paid the same price for your GPU,or less. Example =  My Core 2 Duo E6550 still felt a bit usable in some less demanding modern games (like minecraft) but my NVIDIA GeForce 8400 (non GS) didn't even feel usable in games.If I put my 1050 TI in that old system it would be definately much better than putting my 8400 in my new system.

Bottleneck thing depends from game to game. There are also CPU heavy games in which having a weaker CPU is just as painful as a weaker GPU. Still, I do agree that Stronger GPU is preferred since most GPUs can be overclocked to push more performance out of it while most CPUs are stuck at their original clock speeds.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Bottleneck thing depends from game to game. There are also CPU heavy games in which having a weaker CPU is just as painful as a weaker GPU. Still, I do agree that Stronger GPU is preferred since most GPUs can be overclocked to push more performance out of it while most CPUs are stuck at their original clock speeds.

So basically you want to get a r3 and a 1070, then upgrade to a r7 2700x(when it releases) and then get a volta?

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Bottleneck thing depends from game to game. There are also CPU heavy games in which having a weaker CPU is just as painful as a weaker GPU. Still, I do agree that Stronger GPU is preferred since most GPUs can be overclocked to push more performance out of it while most CPUs are stuck at their original clock speeds.

Ok,for example,a CPU dependant game wasn't able to run over 25 fps on my Lenovo ThinkPad R61 (Core 2 Duo T7300,Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset family,1 GB Ram) even on lowest settings,why? Because it needs a good gpu that can render the game as fast enough as The CPU giving it frames to render,or else the CPU is feeding the GPU frames to render too fast,the GPU can't keep up)

   

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9 minutes ago, Alpha_Krk said:

So basically you want to get a r3 and a 1070, then upgrade to a r7 2700x(when it releases) and then get a volta?

No.A R3 would last long enough with a 1070 (for around 6 yrs or more) a 1070 can be considered as it probably will get obsolete in the same time as the r3 (which is not less,around 6-10 yrs)

 

EDIT:answered it anyway even though i didn't get quoted,mentioned.

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3 minutes ago, Gaurav S Rao said:

No.A R3 would last long enough with a 1070 (for around 6 yrs or more) a 1070 can be considered as it probably will get obsolete in the same time as the r3 (which is not less,around 6-10 yrs)

You cant really predict how long will it last, also people upgrade faster if they pay the bills by using it

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1 minute ago, Alpha_Krk said:

You cant really predict how long will it last, also people upgrade faster if they pay the bills by using it

By "last" i mean how long it will be usable before getting obsolete.

   

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5 minutes ago, Alpha_Krk said:

People at AMD said that they will support the AM4 platform for 4 years witch is pretty good

I do know that.

   

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19 minutes ago, Alpha_Krk said:

So basically you want to get a r3 and a 1070, then upgrade to a r7 2700x(when it releases) and then get a volta?

No. While GPU should be stronger than CPU, the difference shouldnt be that large.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 hours ago, Alpha_Krk said:

r3 1200 and 1060 is the only logical solution here, also the r3 has a pretty cool stock cooler.

I agree in the fullest. were not sure when more intel Cpu's will show up, and the mobo and CPU will be cheaper, although I would go with a ryzen 5 chip

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I'm asking if this build is possible, yet people say I have to get different parts even though the build is possible, like for real.

I have my reasons I picked those parts.

 

You should warn them, not me, all I asked is: is this build possible?

 

The answers I got is: get a 1060.

Get this,

Get that,

I want to know if the build is possible, not what is a better build in their eyes.

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1 hour ago, Ofbasecfin said:

I'm asking if this build is possible, yet people say I have to get different parts even though the build is possible, like for real.

I have my reasons I picked those parts.

 

You should warn them, not me, all I asked is: is this build possible?

 

The answers I got is: get a 1060.

Get this,

Get that,

I want to know if the build is possible, not what is a better build in their eyes.

Short answer, yes that build would work.

 

Slightly longer answer, with that PSU it is possible or even likely that you will cause long term problems with the build due to PSU problems. It is generally recommended to not skimp on the powersupply because if the PSU fails it can kill some or all of the other components of the system. A Dying PSU can very easily take a motherboard, CPU and GPU with it which leaves you out a whole system, so it is worth the cost to get a better power supply to start with.

 

This Forum tends to be very opinionated when it comes to builds, so asking for advice will get lots of advice. The important thing to remember is that you need to filter by what they are and are not saying - nobody said "the whole thing is junk". The general consensus was "generally good with these tweaks". So take that and decide if you want to take those tweaks, remembering that most of the people that are giving advice have built one or more systems. Just for reference I have built 20+ systems over the last 35 years, I kind of loose track over time and I am not sure how relevant the ones I built in the early 1980's are anymore. 

 

Good luck and have fun with your build - remember it's fun, even when it's frustrating it's fun!

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2 hours ago, Ofbasecfin said:

You should warn them, not me

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