Royally F*cked with CPU buying timing...

[12345littlepeople]

So I don't know what to do, in February, after hearing on even more delays with Ryzen, I decided to finally pull the plug and upgrade. Getting a 6600K (on sale for $180) and a Z270 after being told that intel's Coffee Lake would be compatible. Welp, after Ryzen came out literally 4 days after I got my new chip, I saw the gaming benchmarks and was okay with having a little less performance while streaming and video editing. However, now that Coffee Lake is out, amazing at overclocking, and great in both gaming and streaming/video editing. I don't know what to do, should I just stick with my 6600K and maybe upgrade to a 7700K later on if they come down in price? or try to sell off my current setup for a Z370 and an 8th gen i5 or i7, I only have ~$100 CAD to spend so.

 

I still cannot believe I made such a stupid decision when it came to CPU and motherboard buying.

[DarkSmith2]

Welp, who said that z270 would be compatible to coffee lake? we heard for month's now that it wont be. I feel sorry for you. But 6600k is still fine anyway.

[porina]

Stick with it unless you're doing something you know the CPU is severely limiting you. With good cooling you can get well into the 4.x GHz range anyway, even if you're a few threads short it'll be capable of many things. Look at it another way, it's going to cost you to change and you're not going to get that much more without spending quite a bit more. Something newer and faster will come out all the time. You're never going to keep up unless you have deep pockets.

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, 12345littlepeople said:

 I only have ~$100 CAD to spend so.

After Coffee Lake's release your build is worth little. I mean, the soon released 8350k has an MSRP of $169 (in usd), so selling what you have now will at most give you another 300CAD to spend. Adding the 100 you have, it's still not enough to go Coffee Lake.

 

Stick with what you have now and upgrade when you have saved up more money and Coffee's prices to go down (expect to be Q2 2018)

[DarkSmith2]

Stick with it save up money and get 8core cannonlake if it really gets released 2H 2018  

[JusticeBeaver]

well the biggest question is what do you want to do with coffee lake that you can not do with your current set up? I understand that its not the latest and greatest and doesn't have the flashy new board, or the higher numbers, but what are you doing with your system and does it warrant taking a lose in the money? 

If your gamin and streaming just fine then who cares, if any of the games you want to play or software you want to run is causing major issues then sure do it, but my .2 is to just wait a few years and then upgrade. 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Welp, who said that z270 would be compatible to coffee lake? we heard for month's now that it wont be. I feel sorry for you. But 6600k is still fine anyway.

No one. However, the news of Coffee using LGA1151 came before that, so many assumed Coffee to work with Z270. People just forget how much of a [f-word] Intel is when it comes to milking money. Also, this isnt the first on Intel. Look at X79 and X99, both LGA 2011, but caused so much trouble Intel have to call the X99 one LGA2011-3 or v3. Now Intel decides not change the name at all so some will fall on their trap.

[DarkSmith2]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

No one. However, the news of Coffee using LGA1151 came before that, so many assumed Coffee to work with Z270. People just forget how much of a [f-word] Intel is when it comes to milking money. Also, this isnt the first on Intel. Look at X79 and X99, both LGA 2011, but caused so much trouble Intel have to call the X99 one LGA2011-3 or v3. Now Intel decides not change the name at all so some will fall on their trap.

Yea, no its no trap its a LGA1151 board that is what it is. Why should you rename it when it has the same number of pins? Even if they would had renamed it to 1151v2 poeple would still make the same mistakes and cry out loud. Theyre also not really milking it with that fact, they milked us with the fact that this cpu/platform should had been released instead of kabylake in January. 

 

Obviously a 6core and potential 8core CPU needs a different pin layout for power delivery to not damage the socket. z170 and z270 were never purposed to work with 6core or 8core cpus and thats the problem. 

 

But if you are into tech and read stuff, or read stuff only because you plan to buy you should pretty much realize what is going on before buying. So i dont see a big problem, it was your mistake if you bought wrong stuff to be honest. There arent CPU compatibility lists from board manufacturers without reason. (which you can look up before buying)

[PCMasterGuy]

It's still a great CPU, basically the same for gaming... Besides there is a global shortage for coffee lake chips so very few ppl will get them before January of next year anyway, basically a paper release... besides I wouldn't call covfefe lake "amazing at overclocking, gets nice and toasty and waaay hotter than 6th gen processors.

[Jurrunio]

32 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Yea, no its no trap its a LGA1151 board that is what it is. Why should you rename it when it has the same number of pins? Even if they would had renamed it to 1151v2 poeple would still make the same mistakes and cry out loud. Theyre also not really milking it with that fact, they milked us with the fact that this cpu/platform should had been released instead of kabylake in January. 

 

But if you are into tech and read stuff, or read stuff only because you plan to buy you should pretty much realize what is going on before buying. So i dont see a big problem, it was your mistake if you bought wrong stuff to be honest. There arent CPU compatibility lists from board manufacturers without reason. (which you can look up before buying)

At least it can reduce the number of people falling in the trap.

 

Yes they are milking money out of it. Spend $350+ on the top CPU, and they still put cheap goo under the lid.

 

 

[DarkSmith2]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

At least it can reduce the number of people falling in the trap.

 

Yes they are milking money out of it. Spend $350+ on the top CPU, and they still put cheap goo under the lid.

ofc, but people should get over it, it probably wont ever change again. They even put toothpaste on the x299 12+ core CPUs. But i mean they do it since Ivy-Bridge.. on the mainstream platform so nothing new..

[Zeitec]

Stick with it then get Icelake. That'll probably be the next Sandy Bridge. Rumours are that it will be 8 cores on i5's and 8/16 on i7's with greater IPC than Sky/kaby/coffee lake. 

[DarkSmith2]

1 minute ago, Zeitec said:

Stick with it then get Icelake. That'll probably be the next Sandy Bridge. Rumours are that it will be 8 cores on i5's and 8/16 on i7's with greater IPC than Sky/kaby/coffee lake. 

i think if, they would call the 8core i9. I dont think they'll rename again so fast.

[Jurrunio]

15 minutes ago, Zeitec said:

Stick with it then get Icelake. That'll probably be the next Sandy Bridge. Rumours are that it will be 8 cores on i5's and 8/16 on i7's with greater IPC than Sky/kaby/coffee lake. 

but it will need a new mobo. Thats what Z390 which should come in the future (unless Intel change plans) is for

[Zeitec]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

but it will need a new mobo. Thats what Z390 which should come in the future (unless Intel change plans) is for

What? He has a Z270. If he went to CFL he'd have to get a Z370. I think it's better to wait an extra generation and get the CPU that will support more than literally one generation. 

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, Zeitec said:

What? He has a Z270. If he went to CFL he'd have to get a Z370. I think it's better to wait an extra generation and get the CPU that will support more than literally one generation. 

I mean Ice Lake (whatever the name) with 8 cores. If moving from 4 cores to 6 needs new mobo, then likely the same when going from 6 to 8.

[Zeitec]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I mean Ice Lake (whatever the name) with 8 cores. If moving from 4 cores to 6 needs new mobo, then likely the same when going from 6 to 8.

Yes, correct. It will require the Z390 chipset. He should wait until that Ice Lake comes out and get a Z390 motherboard. I'm sorry I don't understand what your point is...