Help with selecting hardware

[PepeCZ]

Hi guys, into this time I work and play only from laptops (my last desktop was celeron 333mhz).

 

Now I have HP Spectre x360 2017 with egpu thunderbolt3 box Mantiz Venus with R9 Nano.

 

But I want after very long time build again desktop PC.

 

..can someone say me if hardware what I select is ok with comparison: power vs bucks etc. (and ofc because I build desktop again after long time so I want have minimal little good look :-)

 

Big thanks for tips :-)

 

I have on DPC around 35000 Czech krounds, it is around 1600 dollars. Maximum I want give 1800/2000 dollars.
For this money I must buy all items - only these items I not need: GPU not (I can give into desktop my msi r9 nano), monitor not (I can use with desktop monitor what I have now for my egpu notebook build..same with mouse and keyboard), keyboard not, mouse and mousepad not.

 

...items down cost now in my country +- 34000 czech koruna, it's around +- 1575 dollars...

 

1 dollar is 21,736 czech koruna
for better calculating: 1 $ = 22 Kč

 

AMD RYZEN 7 1700 8 440 Kč

G.SKILL 16GB KIT DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Trident Z RGB 4 706 Kč

 

 Kingston KC1000 480GB NVMe MLC 6 712 Kč (and with adapter 7 014 Kč)

ASUS ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING 5 131 Kč

 Seasonic Prime SSR-1000PD 6 337 Kč

NZXT S340 Elite matná černá 2 603 Kč ---> switch onPHANTEKS Enthoo Pro M, Tempered Glass, černá 3 199 Kč

 

PC PART PICKER: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j9cFjc
only SSD I must on pcpartpicker select different because this website not evidate Kingston KC1000

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-Moved to New Builds and Planning- 

[hconverse02]

Looks good to me, do you still need a graphics card or is the r9 nano carrying over? Also do you have peripherals or not?

[PepeCZ]

3 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Looks good to me, do you still need a graphics card or is the r9 nano carrying over? Also do you have peripherals or not?

Hi, yes for me is R9 Nano still okay. 

 

And peripherals I not need. nothink. Looks on my signature.

I have completly new moniter and keyboard and mouse and mousepad ... all is old only few months :-) I try bought only good items. For example monitor I know that exist 2k 4k etc but for my and my not perfect eyes is still quality fullhd monitor ok, mouse is okay too I not need hundred keys for me is best left and right plus two on side :-) etc.

[PorkishPig]

43 minutes ago, PepeCZ said:

..can someone say me if hardware what I select is ok with comparison: power vs bucks etc. (and ofc because I build desktop again after long time so I want have minimal little good look :-)

 

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The Asus ROG Strix X370-F is a bit overkill but if you want RGB you certainly get RGB. As for your choice in SSD, your motherboard includes one M.2 NVMe PCIe slot and does not require a x4 PCIe to M.2 PCIe converter. Therefore, I would suggest that you pick up the higher compacity, faster, and cheaper 512GB Samsung 960 EVO.

[PepeCZ]

1 minute ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

The Asus ROG Strix X370-F is a bit overkill but if you want RGB you certainly get RGB. As for your choice in SSD, your motherboard includes one M.2 NVMe PCIe slot and does not require an x4 PCIe to M.2 PCIe converter. Therefore, I would suggest that you pick up the higher compacity, faster, and cheaper 512GB Samsung 960 EVO.

In my country is this ssd only about 5 dollars more than without slot, so I ofc give ssd direct on motherboard :-) so why not pickup with adapter, adapter I give into table (after +- 5 dollars is perfect price)
RGB is only nice bonus for me. This will be my desktop after very long time so I not want be limited if understand :-)

[NumLock21]

That Kingston SSD comes with that PCIe M.2 adapter? If not, remove it because you can use onboard M.2 on the motherboard.

[PepeCZ]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

That Kingston SSD comes with that PCIe M.2 adapter? If not, remove it because you can use onboard M.2 on the motherboard.

Hi ye, as I say, I want buy it only because in my country  is price without adapter only -5dollars so why not buy with adapter :-) price 5 dollars more is as nothink if understand.

[PepeCZ]

I can spent maybe little more, around max 2000 dollars.
But I not know if worth buy something more powerfull, for example TR 1900x .. this will cost more in cppu and motherboard ... Or if this not worth for small upgrade.

 

Into time than I create this list of hardware items, so I look on sooooo many reviews and shops etc. But I still not know  So I create account here on linustechtips community with this question (because I very long time looking on linus videos)

 

Into this time I always live with laptops and dgpu and now few years with eGPU but I want again jump on old river with desktoppc.

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, PepeCZ said:

Hi ye, as I say, I want buy it only because in my country  is price without adapter only -5dollars so why not buy with adapter :-) price 5 dollars more is as nothink if understand.

My post was already submitted when I saw your new reply about the adapter is only $5. For $5, I would also get it with the adapter. 

[PepeCZ]

2 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

My post was already submitted when I saw your new reply about the adapter is only $5. For $5, I would also get it with the adapter. 

And other items? View you here some any gap?

Yes, for example in PSU so here I want have some space for future upgrades for example on more powerfull gpu etc. and this seasonic looks okay in any reviews.

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, PepeCZ said:

And other items? View you here some any gap?

Yes, for example PSU is more expensive but I just want to reserve a reserve and this resource is praised

Like others had mentioned. Looks good so far.

[PorkishPig]

Just now, PepeCZ said:

In my country is this ssd only about 5 dollars more than without slot, so I ofc give ssd direct on motherboard :-)
RGB is only nice bonus for me. This will be my desktop after very long time so I not want be limited if understand :-)

If the SSD you selected is 5Kč more expensive, I would still strongly suggest that you switch to a 960 EVO. You'll get more storage and faster read and write speeds. The adapter is not necessary in your use case, as you will probably end up removing it from its adapter.

 

I'm also noticing that your power supply is a bit overkill. You certainly do not need one thousand watts to drive this system, nor the platinum efficiency rating. I would suggest that you go with a gold rated EVGA power supply such as the SuperNOVA 750w G2 instead, and use the extra cash to purchase a higher capacity hard drive from WD or Seagate to pair with your SSD.

[PepeCZ]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

Like others had mentioned. Looks good so far.

Maybe I'm starting to blush into red. : D I thought I have here a lot of space there.

[PepeCZ]

3 minutes ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

If the SSD you selected is 5Kč more expensive, I would still strongly suggest that you switch to a 960 EVO. You'll get more storage and faster read and write speeds. The adapter is not necessary in your use case, as you will probably end up removing it from its adapter.

 

I'm also noticing that your power supply is a bit overkill. You certainly do not need one thousand watts to drive this system, nor the platinum efficiency rating. I would suggest that you go with a gold rated EVGA power supply such as the SuperNOVA 750w G2 instead, and use the extra cash to purchase a higher capacity hard drive from WD or Seagate to pair with your SSD.

But EVO have TLC or not? I prefer only MLC.
For example now I have in my laptop Sansung 960 Pro 1TB ... so I want into desktop mlc only too. But buy second S960Pro is realy for many more bucks.
About PSU, so this I know, 1000W seasonic platinum is little overpower but this psu I want buy as future proof .... 

[PorkishPig]

6 minutes ago, PepeCZ said:

But EVO have TLC or not? I prefer only MLC.

The 960 EVO hits a read speed of about 3200 MB/s, and a write speed of about 1900 MB/s, compared to the Kington's 2700MB/s read and 1600MB/s write. The Samsung 960 EVO has a 48-layer MLC V-NAND.

[PepeCZ]

5 minutes ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

The 960 EVO hits a read speed of about 3200 MB/s, and a write speed of about 1900 MB/s, compared to the Kington's 2700MB/s read and 1600MB/s write. The Samsung 960 EVO has a 48-layer MLC V-NAND.

Hm .. Evo960 have mlc too? I mean that use tlc same as lower 8xx lineup.

Hm so If Evo have mlc too, some this maybe good info.
Ofc I want buy into desktop same ssd as I bought into laptop but this ssd (Pro960) is very expensive and on desktop I prepare some budget.

[PorkishPig]

Just now, PepeCZ said:

Hm .. Evo960 have mlc too? I mean that use tlc same as lower 8xx lineup.

Hm so If Evo have mlc too, some this maybe good info.
Ofc I want buy into desktop same ssd as I bought into laptop but this ssd (Pro960) is very expensive and on desktop I prepare some budget.

The 960 Pro is indeed an upgrade, though I don't think the extra cost will be worth it in your use case. The 960 EVO should be more than capable on handling everyday tasks. Please also take note of my recommendation for your power supply.

17 minutes ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

I'm also noticing that your power supply is a bit overkill. You certainly do not need one thousand watts to drive this system, nor the platinum efficiency rating. I would suggest that you go with a gold rated EVGA power supply such as the SuperNOVA 750w G2 instead, and use the extra cash to purchase a higher capacity hard drive from WD or Seagate to pair with your SSD.

 

[PepeCZ]

11 minutes ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

The 960 Pro is indeed an upgrade, though I don't think the extra cost will be worth it in your use case. The 960 EVO should be more than capable on handling everyday tasks. Please also take note of my recommendation for your power supply.

 

I know that is overpower. But this PSU I really want buy. I want buy minimal one Vega64 or Vega Nano this christmas so I need have good PSU :-)
Because sometimes is Vega very high power peak. <- This I know because I trying in my external gpu box Mantiz Venus Sapphire Vega64 and because this eGPUBox have only 550W PSU so I must back into store because Vega has little higher power peak on few miliseconds. (I addressed this situation at the forum egpu.io with eGPU vendor) So I must back into store Vega and stick with my Nano (before I has FuryX but pump start be bad so I switch).
So this is why I start searching PSU with only one parametres minimal 1000w, for more powerfull gpu or two gpu or have some free space for future profe.

But I know, now with this setup what I maybe buy and with my old R9 Nano is this PSU stronger more than I need but I not want for example in few years buy new psu so this is why I select this one.

But if exist for money other 1000 or more W psu which have detach cables, with better build quality, so write, I always welcome any tips :-)

[PorkishPig]

1 minute ago, PepeCZ said:

I know that is overpower. But this PSU I really want buy. I want buy minimal one Vega64 or Vega Nano this christmas so I need have good PSU :-)
Because sometimes is Vega very high power peak. <- This I know because I trying in my external gpu box Mantiz Venus Sapphire Vega64 and because this eGPUBox have only 550W PSU so I must back into store because Vega has little higher power peak on few miliseconds.
So this is why I start searching PSU with only one parametres minimal 1000w, for more powerfull gpu or two gpu or have some free space for future profe.
But I know, now with this setup what I maybe buy and with my old R9 Nano is this PSU stronger more than I need but I not want for example in few years buy new psu so this is why I select this one.

But if exist for money other 1000 or more W psu which have detach cables, with better build quality, so write, I always welcome any tips :-)

In that case, I would suggest that you look at the Corsair RMX 1000W. It is cheaper than the Seasonic Prime SSR-1000PD in the United States, though I'm unsure how the prices will compare in the Czech Republic.

[PepeCZ]

And CPU (must be 8core and more) or RAN (must be minimal 3200) and MOTHERBOARD really best for this price?

When AMD release TR so I little start calculate if is not better pickup 1900x (because cpu cost not many but problem is very expensive motherboard and plus cooler:-/)

[PepeCZ]

3 minutes ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

In that case, I would suggest that you look at the Corsair RMX 1000W. It is cheaper than the Seasonic Prime SSR-1000PD in the United States, though I'm unsure how the prices will compare in the Czech Republic.

Corsair RMX 1000W? Hm .. thanks for tip, I look on it.

EDIT: oh so in my country not exist this version :-/ ...Oh Yea, you mean RM1000X right?

 

Corsair HX1000

 

 

5 365,-

Objednací kód: UY006v3

Corsair HX1000i

-

 

 

5 957,-

Objednací kód: UY006t3

Corsair RM1000i

 

1×

 

4 944,-

Objednací kód: UY006s6b

Corsair RM1000x

 

 

4 767,-

 

[PorkishPig]

2 minutes ago, PepeCZ said:

EDIT: oh so in my country not exist this version :-/
Only these:

The RM1000x at the bottom is the same power supply as the RMX 1000W.

 

As for your other question, there are plenty of cheaper options on the AM4 platform that offer RGB support. See the GIGABYTE AORUS GA-AX370-Gaming K5 or K7. Your memory is fine, as it is currently the best rated RGB memory on the market.

[Not_Sean]

1 minute ago, Homeless_Pineapple said:

As for your other question, there are plenty of cheaper options on the AM4 platform that offer RGB support. See the GIGABYTE AORUS GA-AX370-Gaming K5 or K7. Your memory is fine, as it is currently the best rated RGB memory on the market.

I just got my hands on the Airus Gaming 5 mb for a client and i'm DAMN impressed, was the first one I got hands on with and really really impressed by it specially for its price. 

[PepeCZ]

Just now, Homeless_Pineapple said:

The RM1000x at the bottom is the same power supply as the RMX 1000W.

 

As for your other question, there are plenty of cheaper options on the AM4 platform that offer RGB support. See the GIGABYTE AORUS GA-AX370-Gaming K5 or K7. Your memory is fine, as it is currently the best rated RGB memory on the market.

Ye ... But with MOTHERBOARD so here you have true. Here I have biggest fight :-/
I try compare all AM4 motherboards but always have some MB minus and some plus.

 

for exampe on internet rated as AM4 best motherboard Cross from Asus so here I found few minus too  and second this motherboard atack threadripper boards in my country :D:D:D price around 9500 Czech kround.

Hm here in motherboard I have maybe the largest gap.