OVERKILL ROUTER/NAS/PLEX IN ONE PC

[Spmehrin]

Had an idea for a while. Have a PC 10-12 cores at 3.5-4ghz and virtualize it. 2 cores for router and 8-10 cores for Plex and nas. That way there is no limitations for the connection between network/router  and Plex. You could use virtual network connections to allow the two parts of the machine to connect. Use mobo(link in PC part picker) have 10gb in and 10gb out to an access point for wifi

 

Let's have them build this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72Mm9W

[MrMcMuffinJr]

do you really need a 6950x?

[Spmehrin]

Just now, MrMcMuffinJr said:

do you really need a 6950x?

I mean probably not, but it would increase the performance of the transcoder for Plex?

[MrMcMuffinJr]

Just now, Spmehrin said:

I mean probably not, but it would increase the performance of the transcoder for Plex?

just get a decent xeon. preferably under $1500

[Hiitchy]

If you're doing all this you may want to bump up your ram to 32/64GB and drop one of your 10TB hard drives.

[Spmehrin]

True. How much ram would the virtual router need?

[Hiitchy]

3 minutes ago, Spmehrin said:

True. How much ram would the virtual router need?

I wouldn't know since I've never done anything like pfsense or plex. I'm just thinking virtualization wise for an OS you'd need a good amount of ram and cores to run it well.

[GDRRiley]

you could do all this on a 1700. 1 core 2 threads for router andthe rest for plex and NAS even that is overkill, a quad or 6 core with SMT would also do fine. 

[njmyers3]

5 hours ago, Spmehrin said:

True. How much ram would the virtual router need?

pfSense doesn't need a lot of ram; a single gigabyte would work. However, if you want to do a lot of caching, ram will help a lot in website load times.

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

I have a 8 core machine and I put 2 cores on pfsense with snort IDS. It was actually annoying having the CPU ramp up while im just surfing. That extra heat does affect overclocks, power consumption, and games. I have a seperate PC for my router now and its much quieter.

For the file server, you dont need a virtual machine. Just run the server application from your host.

[Ramaddil]

If your looking for a lot of threads go Ryzen or Threadripper.. Intel way overpriced for a 6950X.. Could have a 1950X 16c/32t for 999.99 or 1920x 12c/24t for 799.99.  But as others said you could just go with a AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8c/16t which are going for 250-300.

[Nikolithebear]

On 9/11/2017 at 1:05 PM, Spmehrin said:

True. How much ram would the virtual router need?

128mb... Its a router.  

 

Granted mine has 8gb but its a full 1u machine..

 

Still. 

[Pixel5]

for the price of the CPU alone you can get a faster Threadripper CPU + a hgh end motherboard and still have money left over.

 

also scrap that Intel SSD and get multiple m.2 drives unless there is a good reason why you need a full 1.2Tb of SSD Storage.

[Spmehrin]

10 hours ago, Pixel5 said:

for the price of the CPU alone you can get a faster Threadripper CPU + a hgh end motherboard and still have money left over.

 

also scrap that Intel SSD and get multiple m.2 drives unless there is a good reason why you need a full 1.2Tb of SSD Storage.

good idea, is there any  high end threadtripper with 10gb switch preinstalled on the board

[GDRRiley]

3 hours ago, Spmehrin said:

good idea, is there any  high end threadtripper with 10gb switch preinstalled on the board

no, no motherboard has a networking switch on it. if you mean 10gb port no, but 10gb cards are only 100$

[Nikolithebear]

Just get a used server off ebay... Trust me..

 

Like a Dell R410, R710 or R510.  All are great cheap and awesome powerful hardware for under 400 dollars easy.

 

 

[Spmehrin]

14 hours ago, Nikolithebear said:

Just get a used server off ebay... Trust me..

 

Like a Dell R410, R710 or R510.  All are great cheap and awesome powerful hardware for under 400 dollars easy.

 

 

I see. The only problem i have with old server is reliability and it doesn't offer much flexibility.  I feel with a thread ripper you are able have much more flexibility. are the servers able to trans code 4k hdr at all?

[Spmehrin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Spmehrin/saved/86jyf7

This would be a better option??

Better price use unraid for it

[GDRRiley]

4 minutes ago, Spmehrin said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Spmehrin/saved/86jyf7

This would be a better option??

Better price use unraid for it

get larger capacity drives, 6tb are good for the money. Also try and get nas rated drives

[Spmehrin]

15 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

get larger capacity drives, 6tb are good for the money. Also try and get nas rated drives

Any suggestions on brand?

[Ramaddil]

On 9/13/2017 at 6:28 PM, GDRRiley said:

no, no motherboard has a networking switch on it. if you mean 10gb port no, but 10gb cards are only 100$

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-ZENITH-EXTREME/ Has a 10 Gpbs nic included but the board is $500 plus.

[Jon Jon]

I would argue that for Plex, you don't need much unless you are transcoding.

 

I have been building up my Plex with 1:1 MKV back ups of my DVDs and Blurays (Leveraging MakeMKV and MKV Toolnix).

 

I also have 200/35 internet, so I am not doing any transcoding / compression unless I peak over 20mb/s over the internet.

 

Over LAN, I let it stream the original.

 

I run this 24/7 on my build in my signature, and only run my OC when I am gaming or running Handbrake workloads.

 

The big question is, how many people are you planning to serve up to?

 

For what you want, I would honestly allocate 1 logical core for Router functions...I mean....what are you even serving up to?

If it's just your family's house, you don't need much processing power at all.

 

I would say a Ryzen 7 1700 at stock with the stock cooler would be plenty for what you want.

 

What will you be running to virtualize?

 

[GDRRiley]

5 minutes ago, Spmehrin said:

Any suggestions on brand?

WD, seagate, HG

[GDRRiley]

3 hours ago, Ramaddil said:

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-ZENITH-EXTREME/ Has a 10 Gpbs nic included but the board is $500 plus.

I was trying to correct him on terminology, a nic or 2 is not the same as a switch.