First Time Build Help

[SupamanLawson]

Hey everyone,

 

UPDATED : I’m a first time builder. I’ve been on console as long as I can remember.

 

I will use for gaming mostly. And other things like web browsing and small tasks. I would love it to last at least 2-4 years.

 

Never going to Stream, edit or anything of that nature. 

 

I dont one plan on OCing anything but maybe the option to for later just in case I learn how to.

 

ive read so many forums and still can’t get a handle on the best parts as well as price/performance. 

 

Budget would be $800 without peripherals or a GPU. 

 

But a GPU rec would be great. 

 

I am open to recommendations and all replies are very appreciated.

[hconverse02]

New $800-$1200 would be much better

[SupamanLawson]

Thanks for the reply.

 

That is what I figured. But it never hurts to ask. I just try to save money if its possible.

 

And build recommendations? Ryzen v Intel

[Herman Mcpootis]

new build, but maybe reuse the hdd and os if possible.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.28 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($135.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($518.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Aerocool - Aero-300 Black FAW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($51.49 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($82.89 @ B&H) 
Total: $1188.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-04 09:49 EDT-0400

[Jurrunio]

If you can wait then wait till Coffee Lake's release and buy used i7-4770k / 4790k with mobo sets. This should save enough money for a powerful graphics card, PSU and SSD.

[Gaussen]

save your hdd and replace other component

thats my vote

[SupamanLawson]

Thanks for all the suggestions. Ive heard good things about ryzen. And intel is intel. 

 

Thanks Herman Mcpootis for the build. At least I got a good suggestion for a ryzen motherboard. 

[SupamanLawson]

Bump for more suggestions

[Tom Cat]

Are you looking for a color scheme, also is it just for gaming 

[MegaVoltz]

On 9/4/2017 at 9:50 AM, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.28 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($135.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($518.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Aerocool - Aero-300 Black FAW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($51.49 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($82.89 @ B&H) 
Total: $1188.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-04 09:49 EDT-0400

Gonna have to recommend against this one... You should be using a b350 motherboard if you're getting the r5 1600.

[Tom Cat]

PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZg6X) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZg6X/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3pWrxr/intel-core-i5-7600-35ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57600) | $209.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww) | $99.99 @ Newegg 
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $62.98 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) | $147.88 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/smBrxr/western-digital-blue-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds250g1b0b) | $89.88 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $45.87 @ OutletPC 
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JVWrxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-x-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-6g) | $334.98 @ Newegg 
**Case** | [NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3TYWGX/nzxt-ca-s340w-b3-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-s340w-b3) | $89.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DbqdnQ/corsair-power-supply-cs550m) | $49.99 @ Newegg 
**Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $89.89 @ OutletPC 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1261.44
 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
 | **Total** | **$1221.44**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-09-05 14:25 EDT-0400 

 

That's with a gpu and OS however without them it's around $800

[MegaVoltz]

Try this one:

R7 1700 = 8 core 16 thread

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.96 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.94 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.09 @ B&H)
Total: $795.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-05 14:27 EDT-0400

 

That's without a GPU or OS.

[MegaVoltz]

4 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZg6X) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZg6X/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3pWrxr/intel-core-i5-7600-35ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57600) | $209.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww) | $99.99 @ Newegg 
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $62.98 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) | $147.88 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/smBrxr/western-digital-blue-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds250g1b0b) | $89.88 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $45.87 @ OutletPC 
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JVWrxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-x-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-6g) | $334.98 @ Newegg 
**Case** | [NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3TYWGX/nzxt-ca-s340w-b3-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-s340w-b3) | $89.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DbqdnQ/corsair-power-supply-cs550m) | $49.99 @ Newegg 
**Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $89.89 @ OutletPC 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1261.44
 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
 | **Total** | **$1221.44**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-09-05 14:25 EDT-0400 

 

That's with a gpu and OS however without them it's around $800

Why did you put an i5?

The 1600 or 1600X provides much more value for the money, has a much better upgrade path, and is future-proof. AMD has promised they will keep AM4 around until 2020. Intel is killing off LGA1151 this year with Coffee Lake.

[Tom Cat]

Just now, MegaVoltz said:

Why did you put an i5?

The 1600 or 1600X provides much more value for the money, has a much better upgrade path, and is future-proof. AMD has promised they will keep AM4 around until 2020. Intel is killing off LGA1151 this year with Coffee Lake.

Didn't we talk about this last night?

[Tom Cat]

Just now, Douglas The Duck said:

Didn't we talk about this last night?

Fine than he should put an I7 7700k

[MegaVoltz]

Just now, Douglas The Duck said:

Didn't we talk about this last night?

Yes! You said you agreed with me! The i5 is stupid and makes NO sense for people who are building a new system! If you have an old one it's fine for now, but no one should go out and BUY one in 2017!

[Tom Cat]

Just now, MegaVoltz said:

Yes! You said you agreed with me! The i5 is stupid and makes NO sense for people who are building a new system! If you have an old one it's fine for now, but no one should go out and BUY one in 2017!

Yeah I don't know why I put an I5 let me fix that

[MegaVoltz]

Just now, Douglas The Duck said:

Fine than he should put an I7 7700k

The 1700 has double the cores and threads for less money. Also it can be overclocked on $60-80 motherboards, and it comes with a cooler. The 7700K costs more, only has FOUR cores, you need to spend tons on a beefy cooler because that thing is held together with the equivalent of toothpaste, and it can't be overclocked unless you spend upwards of $150 on a motherboard! Not even mentioning the R7 will outperform it in the future due to developers taking advantage of those cores and threads. If they were properly utilized today, the 1700 would be nearly twice as fast as the 7700K in current games.

Basically all it comes down to is short term pain, long term gain. It's not even a big deal because the 7700k only beats the 1700 by ~15% in most current games, that gap will close as time goes on.

[Tom Cat]

10 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZg6X) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZg6X/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3pWrxr/intel-core-i5-7600-35ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57600) | $209.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww) | $99.99 @ Newegg 
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $62.98 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) | $147.88 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/smBrxr/western-digital-blue-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds250g1b0b) | $89.88 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $45.87 @ OutletPC 
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JVWrxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-x-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-6g) | $334.98 @ Newegg 
**Case** | [NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3TYWGX/nzxt-ca-s340w-b3-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-s340w-b3) | $89.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DbqdnQ/corsair-power-supply-cs550m) | $49.99 @ Newegg 
**Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $89.89 @ OutletPC 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1261.44
 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
 | **Total** | **$1221.44**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-09-05 14:25 EDT-0400 

 

That's with a gpu and OS however without them it's around $800

Instead of the i5 Get a I7-7700k for sure one of the best processors on the market for budget builds. If you but it from micro center it's only $250, $50 more the the i5

[MegaVoltz]

5 minutes ago, Douglas The Duck said:

Instead of the i5 Get a I7-7700k for sure one of the best processors on the market for budget builds. If you but it from micro center it's only $250, $50 more the the i5

Did you read my previous post?

[SupamanLawson]

1 hour ago, Douglas The Duck said:

Are you looking for a color scheme, also is it just for gaming 

Color scheme doesn't really matter to me. Im more of a clean look than a certain color.

[SupamanLawson]

1 hour ago, MegaVoltz said:

The 1700 has double the cores and threads for less money. Also it can be overclocked on $60-80 motherboards, and it comes with a cooler. The 7700K costs more, only has FOUR cores, you need to spend tons on a beefy cooler because that thing is held together with the equivalent of toothpaste, and it can't be overclocked unless you spend upwards of $150 on a motherboard! Not even mentioning the R7 will outperform it in the future due to developers taking advantage of those cores and threads. If they were properly utilized today, the 1700 would be nearly twice as fast as the 7700K in current games.

Basically all it comes down to is short term pain, long term gain. It's not even a big deal because the 7700k only beats the 1700 by ~15% in most current games, that gap will close as time goes on.

So 1700 over a 1600? What about the ryzen issues? Ive been reading alot of reviews with motherboard issues, a mixture of recent and old reviews. I dont know much about either system, but id like to be informed about it before I make a decision. 

 

And again i do not plan on OCing but maybe in the future. 

 

At least you guys have limited me to 2-3 CPUs. so that narrows things down a bunch. Just everything else is intimidating. I definitely ONLY want to go cheaper where the build as a whole wont suffer. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 hours ago, SupamanLawson said:

So 1700 over a 1600? What about the ryzen issues? Ive been reading alot of reviews with motherboard issues, a mixture of recent and old reviews. I dont know much about either system, but id like to be informed about it before I make a decision. 

 

And again i do not plan on OCing but maybe in the future. 

 

At least you guys have limited me to 2-3 CPUs. so that narrows things down a bunch. Just everything else is intimidating. I definitely ONLY want to go cheaper where the build as a whole wont suffer. 

the 1700 doesn't gain much performance increase over the 1600 in gaming and the 7700k performs better than the 1700 in gaming, stick to the 1600 for your budget.

[Herman Mcpootis]

@SupamanLawson whats your budget with a GPU?