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one that works for both will essentially be trash. 

 

Appl currently leads the Smart Watch market significantly,. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

one that works for both will essentially be trash. 

 

Appl currently leads the Smart Watch market significantly,. 

I don't find any leader since it's not as huge of a market as it was when it first came out...

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5 minutes ago, OsuMasterz said:

I don't find any leader since it's not as huge of a market

Well it doesn't matter if you feel there isn't leader but Apple does factually own 50% of the smartwatch market and is the only OEM actively improving the OS that their watches are running. 

 

They have the best infrastructure behind them as well. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Well it doesn't matter if you feel there is no leader but Apple does factually own 50% of the smartwatch market. 

I wouldn't call a leader as one who has market share, I'm talking about "innovation" if anyone does that anymore.

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Just now, OsuMasterz said:

I'm talking about "innovation" if anyone does that anymore.

I would give that point to Apple as well. 

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Just now, OsuMasterz said:

I would give a point to Apple for gimmicks rather than Innovation.

Well if a gimmick took a market that essentially didn't exists and then exploded it into a viable and profitable market then that is one damn good gimmick. 

 

There is a reason Android Wear and Samsung's alternative have not taken off as contrasted by Apple who utterly dominates the market. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Well if a gimmick took a market that essentially didn't exists and then exploded it into a viable and profitable market then that is one damn good gimmick. 

 

There is a reason Android Wear and Samsung's alternative have not taken off as contrasted by Apple who utterly dominates the market. 

The only thing that "won" them the market is the brand that common people know of, not sure how much it's dominated America, but most of the smartwatches that Apple makes don't end up here often, as well as other companies.

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Get the samsung gear s3 if you want something to work on both and look good, honestly i own the gear s2 and it's working perfectly fine on my iphone without any lag or any problems. but the app still needs some work though like i can't send any messages or reply on my watch but that's a minor issue for me.

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1 minute ago, OsuMasterz said:

not sure how much it's dominated America,

If you go outside you will see them. Its been pretty successful for them and the massive effort Apple is putting into watchOS only backs that up. You dont see that kind of effort with Samsung or Android Wear. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

If you go outside you will see them. Its been pretty successful for them and the massive effort Apple is putting into watchOS only backs that up. You dont see that kind of effort with Samsung or Android Wear. 

Alright I get that, but I don't see why any company should try to bring back this kind of category. Like, I barely know anyone if any at all that own some sort of smartwatch at all.

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Just now, OsuMasterz said:

but I don't see why any company should try to bring back this kind of category.

"bring back"? It never existed until a few years ago. 

 

1 minute ago, OsuMasterz said:

Like, I barely know anyone if any at all that own some sort of smartwatch at all.

That doesn't mean anything. I don't know people who have been in hurricanes but they are out there, and there's a lot of them. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

"bring back"? It never existed until a few years ago. 

 

That doesn't mean anything. I don't know people who have been in hurricanes but they are out there, and there's a lot of them. 

It pretty much died within the first 2-3 years, and it started in 2012-2013. It did start a few years ago, but it also died recently imo.

Must you forget that people around me are the common people, how does this directly relate to a hurricane? That is a very specific sample group into which only affects them by being in a certain place.

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14 minutes ago, OsuMasterz said:

It pretty much died within the first 2-3 years, and it started in 2012-2013.

Well APple entered it in 2015 and that is when it took off. Before Apple is was a sad pit of half baked products. 

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On 8/28/2017 at 6:20 PM, OsuMasterz said:

Alright I get that, but I don't see why any company should try to bring back this kind of category. Like, I barely know anyone if any at all that own some sort of smartwatch at all.

Same here. I don't know a single person who owns one. That said, I absolutely can't live without mine. I've actually turned the car around to go back home and get it when I've forgotten it, even when I was already 5-10 minutes away from home.

On 8/28/2017 at 6:13 PM, DrMacintosh said:

Well if a gimmick took a market that essentially didn't exists and then exploded it into a viable and profitable market then that is one damn good gimmick. 

 

There is a reason Android Wear and Samsung's alternative have not taken off as contrasted by Apple who utterly dominates the market. 

It's Apple. If they put out an iToaster, Apple fanboys would run out and buy it lol. A majority market share doesn't necessarily mean the watch is better than an Android Wear device.

On 8/28/2017 at 6:07 PM, DrMacintosh said:

 

They have the best infrastructure behind them as well. 

In what way? You really don't need that much of a backend for a smartwatch.

 

On 8/28/2017 at 6:41 PM, DrMacintosh said:

Well APple entered it in 2015 and that is when it took off. Before Apple is was a sad pit of half baked products. 

I'm still rocking my Asus Zenwatch from 2014 and it is far from what I would call half baked. It does pretty much everything I want a smartwatch to do and does it relatively well. Granted, Android Wear did go through a substantial update since then but I completely disagree that the Apple Watch transformed the smartwatch space. There were some half baked smartwatches before it, that's for sure, but there were some really good ones as well.

 

The only criticism I have with my Zenwatch is that the heart rate monitor and step counter aren't that great but I didn't buy it for those features anyway. The only reason I would upgrade to a new smartwatch is for WiFi support but even that isn't driving me to go out and buy one right now. I'm quite happy with my pre-2015 smartwatch. :)

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46 minutes ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

It's Apple. If they put out an iToaster, Apple fanboys would run out and buy it lol.

Rhetoric, not reasoning. 

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47 minutes ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

In what way?

 

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5 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Rhetoric, not reasoning. 

 

It is well known that Apple has incredibly fierce brand loyalty. Android has a higher market share than IOS but yet you don't see comparable Android Wear sales. It isn't because they are bad devices either. Many Android users just don't feel they offer enough utility to justify the cost. Android Wear devices and the Apple Watch are quite similar functionality wise. At the end of the day, their main purpose is to deliver notifications.

 

So unless Apple users take notifications more seriously than Android users, it's pretty easy to reason many of them are buying the Apple Watch just because it is an Apple accessory. I don't think most Apple users would even consider purchasing a non-Apple smartwatch no matter what it did.

 

6 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

 


I haven't heard anything to the effect of Android Wear having an unfriendly environment to developers or anything like that. Or are you referring simply to the app count?

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3 hours ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

Or are you referring simply to the app count?

Everything

 

Android Wear lacks 3rd party services. 

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