Talking about TDP (Thermal Design Power) of the GPUs

[sicily428]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Max-Q-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.224730.0.html

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Max-Q-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.224732.0.html

[Stagea]

1060 Performance + 1050Ti Thermals ~ 1070 Max Q

1070 Performance + 1060 Thermals ~ 1080 Max Q

[genexis_x]

On 30/08/2017 at 1:34 AM, Stagea said:

1060 Performance + 1050Ti Thermals ~ 1070 Max Q

1070 Performance + 1060 Thermals ~ 1080 Max Q

Max-Q GPUs still have high temps

[Pendragon]

On 8/29/2017 at 1:34 PM, Stagea said:

1070 Performance + 1060 Thermals ~ 1080 Max Q

Price of a 1080.

 

1080 Max Q as a product is fine, but it's just flat overpriced and falsely marketed. 

 

I can achieve the same thing with a 1070 is the real issue people have with it. 

[sicily428]

 

[NepsyNeptune]

On 8/25/2017 at 5:05 AM, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

I don’t think it’s a gimmick but it should be clearer that with Max-Q laptops, you’re not getting the same amount of performance as a laptop with the standard variant.

 

When you’re going for a thin-and-light, you’re going to have to make compromises in performance simply due to thermodynamics. Higher TDP components generally create more heat. Not a problem in a full ATX tower since there is plenty of space to dissipate heat and other options ranging from liquid cooling to even crazy phase-change cooling. 

 

On a laptop, however, it’s much more complicated. Laptop cooling systems have to work extra hard due to the tight confined space as there is much less space to passively dissipate heat compared to a desktop tower. With less space to passively cool, the processors would get warmer, and adding to those woes is that the heatpipes would either have to be thinner or reduced in number. Number of heatpipes may not mean much, but in anything designed for gaming, cooling is critical.

 

The Max-Q laptops are sort of designed for a very specific group of customer. Those who want a laptop that’s portable and can be carried here and there while also being beefy enough for some gaming. Typically, those tend to already have a tower at home. I know someone by the name of @NepsyNeptune who is considering the GTX 1070 Max-Q version of the ASUS GX501 as a portable companion to his 1080 Ti rig.

 

However, if you’re buying one as your main PC gaming rig, you’d probably just want to settle for either a GTX 1060-powered standard sized gaming laptop or one of the beefier GTX 1070/GTX 1080 laptops instead. They are a step into the future, but as of right now, you can’t change the game of physics. They run very warm, and they will thermal throttle when pushed extremely hard.

 

Yes, even with Max-Q, some of those laptops tend to throttle.

yes considering and buying it
but in all seriousness aswell you can also disable the maxq clocks on the gpus and run fans at full if you really wanted all the power but its not really needed these small thin laptops are not ment to be desktop replacments but more so as companions with less power but still enough to run all your games at 1080p at max still 
i personally dont like huge bulky laptops and i want one i can take with my to my bed / out and about and play some of my games but not require a huge bag 
and while at same time still have enough power to keep it around the same level as my desktop 
hench why il be going with asus Zephyrus 

[sicily428]

 

[sicily428]

Dell Dynamic Power Policy: A look into how Dell manages thermal and power policies across its XPS lineup

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Dynamic-Power-Policy-A-look-into-how-Dell-manages-thermal-and-power-policies-across-its-XPS-lineup.247462.0.html

[sicily428]

Nvidia Max-Q limits fan noise to 40 dBA when gaming - so why are we recording louder results?

 

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-Max-Q-limits-fan-noise-to-40-dBA-when-gaming-so-why-are-we-recording-louder-results.258636.0.html

[Hiya!]

And that is what happened to razer blade.

About the last pic not all heatpipe use those vapor chamber right? u know to save manufacturing cost?

 

And i hate physics

[sicily428]

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[Froody129]

On 8/24/2017 at 11:48 PM, M.Yurizaki said:

Those variants don't exist. MAX-Q variants are the same as the regular ones, just clocked slower. The GTX 1080 MAX-Q version runs at 1290-1468MHz, vs 1602-1733MHz of the regular one.

 

Assuming the MAX-Q GPUs are not undervolted too, you could take the percentage difference of the clock speed and apply that to the TDP since there's a linear relationship between TDP and clock speed.

 

At stock speeds on either, they're about the same.

Not really. There’s an exponential increase in power consumption as you go up in clock speed and voltage and once you hit a certain amount under stock clocks there’s less difference. The Max-Qs also use lower voltages 

[genexis_x]

26 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

The Max-Qs also use lower voltages 

Max 1V. However you might be able to override the settings in voltage to frequency graph via MSI Afterburner.

[Mira Yurizaki]

3 hours ago, Froody129 said:

Not really. There’s an exponential increase in power consumption as you go up in clock speed and voltage and once you hit a certain amount under stock clocks there’s less difference. The Max-Qs also use lower voltages 

Only the voltage part of the TDP equation has exponential growth.

 

The equation that gets tossed around is P = C * V^2 * f

[sicily428]