Development build - my first build

[michalorestes]

Hi Linus Tech community! 

 

I am currently in the process of planning my first ever custom build and I would appreciate some advice

 

So, following the checklist: 

 

1. Budget & Location

I like in UK and will be paying in British pounds for my build. My budged is MAX £2000 but I would prefer to not go above £1650  

 

2. Aim

This system is going to be primary used for software development (web dev, mobile applications), which doesn't require very powerful computer, however in free time I also want to be able to be able to play latest games on high/ultra settings while going above 60 frames (for future proving  the more FPS, the better). I'm mostly interested in games such as Tomb Raider, The Witcher 3, Battlefield 1 etc. I own 1080p monitor at the moment so games will not need to run on higher resolutions but would be great to be able to upgrade monitor in the future without buying new GPU. 

 

Moreover, I need a PC that can handle multiple heavy applications running at the same time such as Unreal Engine 4, Blender, Visual Studio as I am also learning to develop games at the moment. I also do light video editing (1080p) so it would need to handle this. 

 

3. Monitors

I currently have 1 1080p monitor to which I may add extra 1080p monitor (not for gaming but for development work). I may upgrade to higher resolution at some point but not within the next near. 

 

4. Peripherals

I would like to buy mechanical keyboard and a gaming mouse, however it is not necessary as I will probably stick to controller for a while and I already have good keyboard & mouse for development. However, would be nice to add good keyboard & mouse if I could save up on the other components and still maintain good performance. 

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm upgrading because my current laptop runs very slow applications such as Android Studio and I want to get in to games development and start a YouTube channel  if I will have enough time. My current laptop could do ok with this if I switch to less demanding applications but I want better performance overall and would like to play games too (but not that much time for playing games anymore ). If I'm upgrading, then why not get in to PC gaming too.  

 

So this is roughly my outline. 

After doing some research I came up with a PC that would cost £2000+ (yeah, lovely GTX 1080 TI) but managed to cut the costs to £1476 (I still haven't included case price in this or keyboard & mouse). Possibly I would like to cut the price down a bit more to buy keyboard & mouse or secondary monitor but not if performance would get heavily decreased. My current set up that I'm thinking of building is in the attachment as a picture. When it comes to the case I really like Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mATX Tempered Glass Midi Tower. 

 

I'm still not sure about the cooler. I'd like something that keeps the temperature low and is quiet. Maybe there is something that performs as good but cheaper (or is more adequate for to my build). 

Regarding the CPU, I'm still not sure if it's worth going for i7 770k. i5 7600k seems to be good too and a bit cheaper. 

Also, is this power supply going to supply enough power to all of these components? 

 

What are your opinions about this current set up? How well do you think it would perform? What parts would you swap (and for what)?

 

Any advice is welcome  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Weed man]

Don't go with intel go with Ryzen much better deal

[Gungpae]

What I would pick:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£263.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£71.37 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£128.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£137.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£54.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  (£581.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv TG (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£109.36 @ Box Limited) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Novatech) 
Monitor: AOC - E2460SH 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  (£104.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master - MasterKeys Pro L Wired Standard Keyboard  (£89.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Mouse: Zowie - EC2-A Wired Optical Mouse  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1683.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 21:28 BST+0100

 

 

You said you wanted the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass mATX case, but you linked an image of (i'm assuming is) your cart with a full ATX motherboard, which will not fit in the case you want.

[Sir Asvald]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£263.99 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£104.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£137.57 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£135.36 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£137.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£54.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  (£485.98 @ YoYoTech) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£157.80 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1563.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 21:29 BST+0100

[Weed man]

 

1 minute ago, Gungpae said:

What I would pick:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£184.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£71.37 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£128.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£137.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£54.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  (£581.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv TG (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£109.36 @ Box Limited) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Novatech) 
Monitor: AOC - E2460SH 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  (£104.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master - MasterKeys Pro L Wired Standard Keyboard  (£89.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Mouse: Zowie - EC2-A Wired Optical Mouse  (£56.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1603.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 21:25 BST+0100

 

You said you wanted the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass mATX case, but you linked an image of (i'm assuming is) your cart with a full ATX motherboard, which will not fit in the case you want.

He probably should get a Vega gpu instead of a 1080 ti because they have more compute which would help in what he does

[Gungpae]

Just now, Weed man said:

 

He probably should get a Vega gpu instead of a 1080 ti because they have more compute which would help in what he does

Using a vega to improve coding?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Weed man said:

 

He probably should get a Vega gpu instead of a 1080 ti because they have more compute which would help in what he does

Vega is 1) expensive 2)hard to buy 3)not as good in games 4) horrible power draw

[LienusLateTips]

26 minutes ago, michalorestes said:

Hi Linus Tech community! 

 

I am currently in the process of planning my first ever custom build and I would appreciate some advice

 

So, following the checklist: 

 

1. Budget & Location

I like in UK and will be paying in British pounds for my build. My budged is MAX £2000 but I would prefer to not go above £1650  

 

2. Aim

This system is going to be primary used for software development (web dev, mobile applications), which doesn't require very powerful computer, however in free time I also want to be able to be able to play latest games on high/ultra settings while going above 60 frames (for future proving  the more FPS, the better). I'm mostly interested in games such as Tomb Raider, The Witcher 3, Battlefield 1 etc. I own 1080p monitor at the moment so games will not need to run on higher resolutions but would be great to be able to upgrade monitor in the future without buying new GPU. 

 

Moreover, I need a PC that can handle multiple heavy applications running at the same time such as Unreal Engine 4, Blender, Visual Studio as I am also learning to develop games at the moment. I also do light video editing (1080p) so it would need to handle this. 

 

3. Monitors

I currently have 1 1080p monitor to which I may add extra 1080p monitor (not for gaming but for development work). I may upgrade to higher resolution at some point but not within the next near. 

 

4. Peripherals

I would like to buy mechanical keyboard and a gaming mouse, however it is not necessary as I will probably stick to controller for a while and I already have good keyboard & mouse for development. However, would be nice to add good keyboard & mouse if I could save up on the other components and still maintain good performance. 

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm upgrading because my current laptop runs very slow applications such as Android Studio and I want to get in to games development and start a YouTube channel  if I will have enough time. My current laptop could do ok with this if I switch to less demanding applications but I want better performance overall and would like to play games too (but not that much time for playing games anymore ). If I'm upgrading, then why not get in to PC gaming too.  

 

So this is roughly my outline. 

After doing some research I came up with a PC that would cost £2000+ (yeah, lovely GTX 1080 TI) but managed to cut the costs to £1476 (I still haven't included case price in this or keyboard & mouse). Possibly I would like to cut the price down a bit more to buy keyboard & mouse or secondary monitor but not if performance would get heavily decreased. My current set up that I'm thinking of building is in the attachment as a picture. When it comes to the case I really like Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mATX Tempered Glass Midi Tower. 

 

I'm still not sure about the cooler. I'd like something that keeps the temperature low and is quiet. Maybe there is something that performs as good but cheaper (or is more adequate for to my build). 

Regarding the CPU, I'm still not sure if it's worth going for i7 770k. i5 7600k seems to be good too and a bit cheaper. 

Also, is this power supply going to supply enough power to all of these components? 

 

What are your opinions about this current set up? How well do you think it would perform? What parts would you swap (and for what)?

 

Any advice is welcome  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^ night theme friendly version

-nightthemenotabot

[LienusLateTips]

Use UK PCPP, go AMD.

[Jurrunio]

This one takes RGB in mind:

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2H9Vpb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2H9Vpb/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£263.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£109.18 @ BT Shop) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)  <--- RGB ram cost a fortune, so I picked one that has neutral colors
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£137.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  (£729.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£148.50 @ Box Limited) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£83.70 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £1678.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 21:40 BST+0100

This one doesn't have RGB (black/red theme)

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jLkx3F
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jLkx3F/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£263.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£76.58 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG Z1 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  (£89.92 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£137.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 HYBRID GAMING Video Card  (£624.79 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ATX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£147.28 @ More Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£83.70 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £1509.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 21:44 BST+0100

I can't find the case you want in PCPP. Also, it won't fit the ATX mobo you picked, so I chose the ATX version of the same case (a really expensive one among good looking ATX mid towers.

 

CPU: Ryzen is better for your work because it offers a lot more cores than Intel's consumer i7s do (X299 is NOT a consumer grade platform).

GPU: I don't need to explain what and why a 1080ti, right?

HDD: You sure you dont need that? 500GB storage on SSD will quickly run out if you save your projects there

Cooler: Stock cooler can handle the temps. A high performance aftermarket air cooler can improve noise levels while water coolers only serve for better aesthetics (compared to air coolers with huge heatsinks).

[michalorestes]

Thanks everyone for your quick replies and awesome suggestions

Regarding the case, it was my mistake. Believe it or not but I thought that mATX actually means Mid tower ATX  

Thanks for the correction as otherwise I would of probably bought the wrong case  

 

I just read up on Ryzen and it really seems more suitable for what I need than Intel's i7. Another great suggestion  

 

Regarding storage then yes, 500GB will run out pretty quickly but I do have additional SSD at home already  

 

Suggested set ups are really good. 

 

So far I will definitely get Ryzen 7 1700 with 1080 Ti (I thought I won't be able to fit it in my budget. Bad research!) and probably Asus - STRIX B350-F (for the looks and sound effects and good set of I/O). 

 

I still need to research the other components from your suggestions but the most important are chosen already   

 

Once again, thank you to everyone for great and quick suggestions  

 

 

 

[LienusLateTips]

34 minutes ago, michalorestes said:

Thanks everyone for your quick replies and awesome suggestions

Regarding the case, it was my mistake. Believe it or not but I thought that mATX actually means Mid tower ATX  

Thanks for the correction as otherwise I would of probably bought the wrong case  

 

I just read up on Ryzen and it really seems more suitable for what I need than Intel's i7. Another great suggestion  

 

Regarding storage then yes, 500GB will run out pretty quickly but I do have additional SSD at home already  

 

Suggested set ups are really good. 

 

So far I will definitely get Ryzen 7 1700 with 1080 Ti (I thought I won't be able to fit it in my budget. Bad research!) and probably Asus - STRIX B350-F (for the looks and sound effects and good set of I/O). 

 

I still need to research the other components from your suggestions but the most important are chosen already   

 

Once again, thank you to everyone for great and quick suggestions  

 

 

 

Just a suggestion, use PCPP UK to get the cheapest prices from a lot of stores.

 

link

[brob]

@michalorestes,

 

The listed motherboard is ATX and will not fit in an mATX case. There is an ATX version of the Evolv TG case.

The motherboard supports dual channel memory and the system will perform better with a dual channel memory kit, e.g. 2x8GB. 

Unreal engine loves memory, as do most development environments. Consider getting 32GB of memory.