Bottleneck or Bad card?

[Hacktivist]

So this is my First post and i am looking for help and insight. Recently a sneaking suspicion about my system being slower than it should and low and behold it is!

I have an AMD Ryzen 1600 and GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming by Aorus and have been getting awful frame rates compared to similar spec'd computers. In GTA V i struggle to get 40 to 50 fps with the same settings of my friend who has an RX 480 and an i5 6500 that gets 60 to 70. I've Browsed several forums and tried several solutions such as reseating components and Reinstalling drivers and such and am baffled. There is suspicion of it being a bad GPU Via my friend in IT but if there are any solutions that stop me from using my warranty and my computer being down for a few days that would be amazing. Benchmarks are awful compared to most GTX 1080s. Anything addition info I can and will provide such as specific benchmarks or apps. If I've done anything wrong such as overclocking this is my first build so go easy on me please. Thanks!

 

System specs

CPU Ryzen 1600x clocked at 3.84ghz

Mobo Asrock B350 Pro4

RAM GSkill Aegis 2x8 2133 ddr4 in dual channel

GPU GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming 2113mhz core clock and 10710 mem clock

PSU Rosewill Photon 550w 80+ Gold 

Case Who cares, Cheapo crap

CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper tx3 2 fans

HDD Hitachi Deskstar 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM

 

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[RadiatingLight]

DDU & Reinstall

[JaegerB]

What resolution are you playing in?

[RadiatingLight]

Also, although this is not the root of your problems, fast RAM is good on Ryzen. if you can OC your RAM to 2966 or even 2666 it would improve performance.

again, this is not the cause of your problems, but once the issue is fixed, then the RAM OC will further increase your performance

[JaegerB]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

DDU & Reinstall

You should trademark that line, you use it so much

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, JaegerB said:

You should trademark that line, you use it so much

It's a solution that's so simple, easy, and solves to many problems.

 

I'm also not the only person that recommends that.

it's basically like the "have you tried turning it off and back on again" for GPU issues.

 

[JaegerB]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

it's basically like the "have you tried turning it off and back on again" for GPU issues.

lol yep

[Damascus]

What resolution? If you are running 4k or 1440p your fps will tank compared to lower hardware on 1080p.

[faziten]

0) Remove any overclock you may have set on your rig. 

1) Try another game.

2) Swap GPU's with your friend it may be your PSU giving up on you. GPUs have amazing failure recovery, if the PSU is not providing enough juice the gpu will underperform. 

3) Monitor the gpu with GPU-z while you test any game. Then post a screenshot here for us to see (expand histogram so we can see how it fluctuates). 

[Hacktivist]

11 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

DDU & Reinstall

That has appeared to fix my problem! Never would have thought of something so simple so thank you! 

11 hours ago, JaegerB said:

What resolution are you playing in?

1080p (overkill i'm aware but the thought was futureproofing)

11 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

Also, although this is not the root of your problems, fast RAM is good on Ryzen. if you can OC your RAM to 2966 or even 2666 it would improve performance.

again, this is not the cause of your problems, but once the issue is fixed, then the RAM OC will further increase your performance

I discovered this after i had bought the my ram sadly. Overclocking to even 2400 causes me to not post and have to reset CMOS, so i'm guessing my ram isn't overclocking friendly.

11 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

It's a solution that's so simple, easy, and solves to many problems.

 

I'm also not the only person that recommends that.

it's basically like the "have you tried turning it off and back on again" for GPU issues.

 

It is! Simple and effective and I thank you again sir! Now of to squeeze out the last bit of performance I can get.

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[RadiatingLight]

2 minutes ago, Hacktivist said:

I discovered this after i had bought the my ram sadly. Overclocking to even 2400 causes me to not post and have to reset CMOS, so i'm guessing my ram isn't overclocking friendly.

What voltage are you running the RAM at when OC'ing?

you can give more voltage to your RAM and IMC, and then it will almost certainly work.

I have a RAM OC guide in my sig which might be useful.

[Darkseth]

33 minutes ago, Hacktivist said:

1080p (overkill i'm aware but the thought was futureproofing)

 

It is! Simple and effective and I thank you again sir! Now of to squeeze out the last bit of performance I can get.

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You MIGHT think that it's overkill.. But if you know how, you can always bring a GPU down to it's knees

And for example, in germany a GTX 1070 costs 470€, while a GTX 1080 (exact same custom model. Palit (super) Jetstream) is available for 545€. 16% mroe price, 25% more performance ^^ Not worth getting 1070 there.

 

If you encounter a Game, where your GTX 1080 already caps your 60 fps on 1080p (assuming you use 60 Hz Monitor, where more than 60 fps Cap makes no sense), without even even boosting to a high Clockrate (in FF XIV my GTX 1080 can hold 60 fps in 1080p, and it sits in a semi-idle mode lol), just use: DSR. ^^

 

Set a DSR Factor of x4.00 in Nvidia Drivers, maybe play with smoothness and look what looks good (for x4.00 you can usually go down to 0% smoothness, otherwise you can reduce the standard 33% down to 20%, which should look good on lower factors. x4.00 is just doubled resolution per axix and 2x2 = 4. Which makes it an even multiplicator = no smoothness needed usually.

 

With DSR Factors set to x4.00, you can chose UHD resolution (3840x2160) in your Game, and the GPU will render in that resolution, which will be downscaled to your Monitor.

Despite you still having only 1920x1080 Pixels, images DO look much sharper/cleaner

 

More Info on how it works ingame: https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology

 

 

 

As for the Benchmark: Don't use heaven really, since it's quite Old. It is NOT good, for checking OC stability.

Even the newer Valley benchmark is worthless for  OC Stability. I got my Card Valley stable, and Firestrike didn't even started, and it already kept crashing over and over ;-)

 

If you OC your GPU, and you want a Benchmark:

 

1. Firestrike (extreme if you have premium, otherwise normal). If it runs through without crashes 1-2 times, it's already "somewhat okay". THEN proceed to next step

(unsure, if Unigine Superposition in 4k or 8k is a good OC indicator. But worth trying. Superposition is a very modern Benchmark)

 

2. Go away from Benches, and play your games. If you have Witcher 3, run through skellige forest, set the game on 4k (4k is MUCH more demanding for the GPU than 1080p or 1440p. Not just fps wise, but even if all resolutions make the GPU go to 100% usage, 4k is much more heavy, and WILL show you OC instability more. You can get your GPU 1080p Witcher stable, but in 4k you get freezes), and run around there for a while. If that's stable, you are most likely fine.

Or just play any other game and enjoy.

 

3. If you EVER encounter a Freeze or instability ---> THEN tweak a bit. Higher voltage, or clock rate down by 1-2 boost steps. Done