Q8300 to i5 650?

[deadaccount69]

Hey guys. So I'm stuck on an aging q8300 with a max of 4gb ram :-(

 

I'm looking at a cheap i5 650 for an upgrade but I'm worried it won't really help my system at all. 2 less cores but HT.

To be clear, there are a crapload of advantages such as proper virtualization, it can overclock fairly high(my current mobo crashes on even the slightest OC), It's got SSE and AES nd all that crap so it should be quite a bit more efficient for certain things, possibility to upgrade to something lyndale(i7 8xx), and most importantly, I can get up to 32 GB of RAM XD.

 

But I'm still worried it's not gonna help my gaming performance(It may even hurt it in some cases?)

Games I'm currently playing and struggling to run smoothly:

 

Watch_Dogs(very high cpu usage on all cores. stuttering.)

Just Cause 2(minor stuttering)

Saints Row 3 and 4(also just minor stutter)

The crew(high cpu usage and minor stutter. mid-low-ish fps)

The Sims 3(yeah this one is pretty slow. Again, high cpu usage.)

Payday 2(input lag, stutter. high cpu usage)

Dota 2(this one is highly held back by my cpu. can't get above about 50 fps with drops to high 20's in fights. high cpu usage. GPU just chilling at like 40% utilization.)

 

Obviously I realize that even with the new CPU, the GPU is still gonna be bottlenecked but is there anybody still using a 1st gen i5 who can comment on what I can expect from it? I used to have a laptop with a 560m and was very satisfied at the time with it(although i didn't do much gaming, i never had desktop slowdowns but then again I had 6gb ram not 4).

 

PS: I also do development and currently Visual Studio/Clion are not very responsive. Not to mention compilation.

[Bananasplit_00]

I had a I5 680 and a GTX 660, worked great for 1080p low, massive upgrade from my Q6600(neither was in my main system, just the LAN PC) motherboards can turn out to be more expensive than the chip though

[deadaccount69]

9 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

I had a I5 680 and a GTX 660, worked great for 1080p low, massive upgrade from my Q6600(neither was in my main system, just the LAN PC) motherboards can turn out to be more expensive than the chip though

I'm running 1680x1050 and don't plan on upgrading anytime soon(I've got an old apple studio monitor and i'm very happy with it.) And the guy I'm buying from is doing a bundle with the cpu, 4 ram slot mobo, and 4gb ram so yeah i'm not worried about that.

[Princess Luna]

Not worth it in my opinion, you should wait another week and pick the Coffee Lake Pentium on the cheapest board made available.

[Taswell]

any of the modern pentiums would work good, or a i5 2500k if you can find a cheap one

[deadaccount69]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not worth it in my opinion, you should wait another week and pick the Coffee Lake Pentium on the cheapest board made available.

I've literally got an absolute maximum budget of $110 to spend on the upgrade. The 650 bundle all together is about $50.  That way I could get a bit of RAM too.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, ryan27968 said:

I've literally got an absolute maximum budget of $110 to spend on the upgrade. The 650 bundle all together is about $50.  That way I could get a bit of RAM too.

You're exchanging 6 for half a dozen and wasting your already saved money for an actual meaningless upgrade though, not worth it the i5 650 is still extremely underpowered by today's standards, comparing the Core2Quad to the 650 we see a roughly 20ish percent improvement in over all performance, now if we compare it to Intel's current cheapest Pentium a 70ish dollars processor that can go on a 40ish dollars motherboard we'd be talking about literally doubling the performance already, this will get even better with Coffee Lake.

 

I would personally keep saving and waiting for it.

[deadaccount69]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

You're exchanging 6 for half a dozen and wasting your already saved money for an actual meaningless upgrade though, not worth it the i5 650 is still extremely underpowered by today's standards, comparing the Core2Quad to the 650 we see a roughly 20ish percent improvement in over all performance, now if we compare it to Intel's current cheapest Pentium a 70ish dollars processor that can go on a 40ish dollars motherboard we'd be talking about literally doubling the performance already, this will get even better with Coffee Lake.

 

I would personally keep saving and waiting for it.

Well there's the rub. Because of reasons I need to upgrade within a month. I need to give my old mobo away soon.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, ryan27968 said:

Well there's the rub. Because of reasons I need to upgrade within a month. I need to give my old mobo away soon.

Well then this whole thread is pointless since you already made up your mind about getting the i5 650 to pass the old system to someone else, no point in show you this is a bad purchase when you're getting it any ways

[deadaccount69]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Well then this whole thread is pointless since you already made up your mind about getting the i5 650 to pass the old system to someone else, no point in show you this is a bad purchase when you're getting it any ways

Nothing decided yet. Your input is definitely valuable. Just trying to find out what my options are that don't involve waiting. And hoping for some people on this forum with experience with the early i5 desktop chips.