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DIY Dedicated Webserver - Help me decide!

Andrew_C

Recently sold my HP DL380 G6 with twin Xeons as it was pulling too many magical pixies from the wall. All it did was host email and a LAMP webserver. Email is now with O365 so need to decide what to do for the websites.

 

VPS isn't for me - I like control. it's either going to be a cheap dedicated server from the likes of OVH or Worldstream, or I build my own low power unit.

 

Help me decide! What low power (al least dual core, 4GB memory, SSD) machine can you scrape together for less than £200 (no case / DVD / peripherals)

 

Show me whatcha got? (with max power draw if you have it)

 

Cheers, Andy

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How much storage? Do you need ECC?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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buy something along the lines of a used i3, ddr3 and a new 120gb ssd.

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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Here:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZGCNhq

Not sure how close to 200£ it is, but It should be around there.

 

Though, as @themctipers said, at this price it would be better to get used cpu/motherboard/ram.

Current LTT F@H Rank: 90    Score: 2,503,680,659    Stats

Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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5 minutes ago, Andrew_C said:

Good build sir! How about a quad-core team red?

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zBVjVY

 

Am looking at your power draw too, 123W vs my 74W.

according to this:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2763&cmp[]=737

 

lol god awful, if it can't beat my i3.. then, nope.

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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Just now, Andrew_C said:

Errr.. from that it looks like it does beat it?

single core, nope

multi core, yes

against a dual core..

unless im reading it wrong, which im not afraid to admit as i glanced.

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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You can buy used Optiplex 9010 or something like that for 150. Add an SSD to that i5 and 8gb ram, boom.

i5 6600k and GTX 1070 but I play 1600-900. 1440p BABY!

Still, don't put too much faith in my buying decisions. xD 

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2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

single core, nope

multi core, yes

against a dual core..

unless im reading it wrong, which im not afraid to admit as i glanced.

Oh I see what you're getting at now! Single core is definitely important to me, but as you can see the AMD chip isn't lagging far behind at all for the performance per watt.

 

1 minute ago, YedZed said:

You can buy used Optiplex 9010 or something like that for 150. Add an SSD to that i5 and 8gb ram, boom.

The Optiplex machines run hot, usually blowing caps every few years.. I want something low power - them magix pixies aint cheap!

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Just now, Andrew_C said:

Oh I see what you're getting at now! Single core is definitely important to me, but as you can see the AMD chip isn't lagging far behind at all for the performance per watt.

 

The Optiplex machines run hot, usually blowing caps every few years.. I want something low power - them magix pixies aint cheap!

if a 2010 i3 can outclass it then .. uh..

 

again, you should look at used sandy/ivy/haswell i3s

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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3 hours ago, Andrew_C said:

The Optiplex machines run hot, usually blowing caps every few years.. I want something low power - them magix pixies aint cheap!

You could just pop off the top... 

i5 6600k and GTX 1070 but I play 1600-900. 1440p BABY!

Still, don't put too much faith in my buying decisions. xD 

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Just now, YedZed said:

You could just pop off the top... 

Hah and use it as a space heater? I think not lol

 

I'll have a nosey around the low end i3's

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3 hours ago, Andrew_C said:

Hah and use it as a space heater? I think not lol

 

I'll have a nosey around the low end i3's

Hold on, its not like the chip is outputting more heat than it normally would. Its not heating any more than it would closed. 

i5 6600k and GTX 1070 but I play 1600-900. 1440p BABY!

Still, don't put too much faith in my buying decisions. xD 

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1 minute ago, YedZed said:

Hold on, its not like the chip is outputting more heat than it normally would. Its not heating any more than it would closed. 

:) I get what you're telling me, open the top to let it survive. The issue is, Optiplex machines don't typically have low TDP chips in them. I would like to get away with as little power as possible for a handful of Wordpress websites and forums. I'd almost be tempted to repurpose an old RPI if it wasn't for the IPBoards instance.

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3 hours ago, Andrew_C said:

:) I get what you're telling me, open the top to let it survive. The issue is, Optiplex machines don't typically have low TDP chips in them. I would like to get away with as little power as possible for a handful of Wordpress websites and forums. I'd almost be tempted to repurpose an old RPI if it wasn't for the IPBoards instance.

Oh you want a specifically low TDP chip? Ohhh

i5 6600k and GTX 1070 but I play 1600-900. 1440p BABY!

Still, don't put too much faith in my buying decisions. xD 

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