Z370 socket

[coconuts4eva]

Saw some leaked info:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-6-core-coffee-lake-surfaces-in-geekbench-(again).html

 

According to this Coffee Lake is going to be on 1151. Anyone else think this is true? Would be a cool upgrade path to the 6 cores if the 170 and 270 motherboards had BIOS updates.

[Billy_Mays]

Take it with a grain of salt

[Bananasplit_00]

just me or does this seem like IPC regression if it has a turbo of 4.2GHz?

[Skiiwee29]

2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

just me or does this seem like IPC regression if it has a turbo of 4.2GHz?

its not really regression with that. Its lower because it has more cores, its a 6 core chip, not 4 core. 

[Guest]

I would take this with a 15KG grain of salt

[dizmo]

Z370 isn't a socket. It's a chip set.

Most of the rumors I've seen so far have been LGA1151v2. They're not the same.

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, legacy99 said:

its not really regression with that. Its lower because it has more cores, its a 6 core chip, not 4 core. 

how does that make sense? the IPC is the instrcutions per clock, and if they are comparable a slightly overclocked R5 1600x, say 3.8GHz all core, then it has more instructions per clock compared to the 4GHz of the Intel chip thats scoreing around the same

[Skiiwee29]

5 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

how does that make sense? the IPC is the instrcutions per clock, and if they are comparable a slightly overclocked R5 1600x, say 3.8GHz all core, then it has more instructions per clock compared to the 4GHz of the Intel chip thats scoreing around the same

You have to do lower the clock speeds per core because of TDP limits. If you look at every single chip in their lineup its the same way. Here is an example with the Broadwell E linup for x99 platform. As the core counts rise, the clock speeds lessen. Single threaded performance is lost, but people are not buying these chips for single threaded performance, they buy them for multi-threaded performance. 

 

[Coaxialgamer]

I honestly doubt they will run on the same lga 1151 socket we have today tbh .The fact that we are still running at 14nm , on a chip sporting 6 cores at barely lower clocks means power is going to be considerably higher , meaning the socket will need to be redesigned. I doubt lga1151 can support that spec .

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

Just wait a little bit and you'll find out. It's possible for it to run on current 1151, but it's Intel here, so we can't be sure. My guess is, it's probably going to run but in Intel typical fashion be limited to either 200 series motherboards, or worse to certain 200 series. Like the Z series.

[Bananasplit_00]

7 hours ago, legacy99 said:

You have to do lower the clock speeds per core because of TDP limits. If you look at every single chip in their lineup its the same way. Here is an example with the Broadwell E linup for x99 platform. As the core counts rise, the clock speeds lessen. Single threaded performance is lost, but people are not buying these chips for single threaded performance, they buy them for multi-threaded performance. 

 

But clock for clock it's doing less then Ryzen. You are seemingly going on about IPS, Instructions Per Second, which is NOT the same as IPC. You get IPS by taking the IPC * frequency. The reason it's an IPC reduction is that Ryzen has around the same instructions per clock as 4th gen core I which is around 10% behind Kabylake

[ImNotThere]

i doubt theyll just put a 3 in the chipset name, purely because they cant use b350 lmao