i7700k vs 1700

[Cl1362]

Gaming (overwatch pub destiny 2 some AAA Games)

 

Light streaming 

Learning and starting to do so.

 

What would benefit me the most 

With a decent cooler 

16-32gb of dominator ram 3000mh

[cj09beira]

well you get slightly better fps on the i7 but the 1700 has twice the number of cores, so its a more powerful cpu in general, and will allow you to multitask more 

[The Sloth]

ryzen 1700 

1 minute ago, Cl1362 said:

With a decent cooler 

 

depends, DH-15 or darkrock pro 3 air cooler or X62, h110i are good watercooler 

[Zando_]

7700K for high refresh rate, 1700 if you want to stream a lot. The 7700K should be fine with light streaming. 

[stealth80]

Pure gaming 7700k, everything else Ryzen 7 

[Cl1362]

Just now, cj09beira said:

well you get sltighly better fps on the i7 but the 1700 has twice the number of cores, so its a more powerful cpu in general, and will allow you to multitask more 

Most games are gpu oriented right ?

 

So pairing it with a 1080 ti and 1700 should be fine right ?

[PCGuy_5960]

The 7700K is better for gaming, but the 1700 is better for streaming.

[cj09beira]

Just now, Cl1362 said:

Most games are gpu oriented right ?

 

So pairing it with a 1080 ti and 1700 should be fine right ?

yes

[Cl1362]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

ryzen 1700 

depends, DH-15 or darkrock pro 3 air cooler or X62, h110i are good watercooler 

X52 kraken

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Cl1362 said:

X52 kraken

that would work 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The 7700K is better for gaming, but the 1700 is better for streaming.

Quick Sync with the iGPU he only said a "little" streaming any ways

[The Sloth]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Quick Sync with the iGPU he only said a "little" streaming any ways

it will depend on quality OP wants to stream at. 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Quick Sync with the iGPU he only said a "little" streaming any ways

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

it will depend on quality OP wants to stream at. 

He did say "light" streaming, so I don't think that quality is a priority

[Cl1362]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

it will depend on quality OP wants to stream at. 

Care to elaborate

[Princess Luna]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

He did say "light" streaming, so I don't think that quality is a priority

Besides it isn't bad it just isn't the best [:

[InsanityWolf]

For gaming and "light streaming" as you mentioned go for an i7 7700k.But if you want to maybe do a lot of streaming,editing and video rendering and the idea stuck in your head that 4 cores wont be enough in a few years and I dont plan to waste 300$ for another cpu then go for the Ryzen 7 1700.Plus,the 1700 comes with a sweet rgb cooler while the 7700k needs a seperate cooler and also the fact that z270 boards cost more than b350,you save yourself about 50$.

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, Cl1362 said:

Care to elaborate

you should be fine, get the 7700k unless you are planning on doing more than "light" streaming 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you should be fine, get the 7700k unless you are planning on doing more than "light" streaming 

Since he is going to buy a 1080 Ti, he can just use NVENC, which is better than quicksync and doesn't have a huge impact on performance

[thirdparty]

Ryzen 

[Cl1362]

11 minutes ago, InsanityWolf said:

For gaming and "light streaming" as you mentioned go for an i7 7700k.But if you want to maybe do a lot of streaming,editing and video rendering and the idea stuck in your head that 4 cores wont be enough in a few years and I dont plan to waste 300$ for another cpu then go for the Ryzen 7 1700.Plus,the 1700 comes with a sweet rgb cooler while the 7700k needs a seperate cooler and also the fact that z270 boards cost more than b350,you save yourself about 50$.

I think you made a great point about being future proof and if I chose to dip my toes into heavy streaming or video editing I will be prepare.

 

 

[Suika]

19 minutes ago, Cl1362 said:

Care to elaborate

It basically comes down to using QuickSync as an encoding method on the i7-7700k or not, as QuickSync will reduce the quality of the stream a bit. The stream is still viewable by all means, but pure x264 encoding would yield a better quality and by extension, a better viewing experience. The R7 1700 is better at simultaneous x264 encoding and gaming due to having double the threads, making it the better choice if you believe you'll invest more into streaming down the road.

[Cl1362]

31 minutes ago, Suika said:

It basically comes down to using QuickSync as an encoding method on the i7-7700k or not, as QuickSync will reduce the quality of the stream a bit. The stream is still viewable by all means, but pure x264 encoding would yield a better quality and by extension, a better viewing experience. The R7 1700 is better at simultaneous x264 encoding and gaming due to having double the threads, making it the better choice if you believe you'll invest more into streaming down the road.

How does this compare to NVENC

[Suika]

Just now, Cl1362 said:

How does this compare to NVENC

Quality wise, NVENC is close, if not slightly worse than QuickSync. I personally record my footage with x264 after comparing NVENC encoding, and x264 just comes out cleaner. 

[Cl1362]

1 minute ago, Suika said:

Quality wise, NVENC is close, if not slightly worse than QuickSync. I personally record my footage with x264 after comparing NVENC encoding, and x264 just comes out cleaner. 

Do you think the amount of ram affects the quality to stream and game on the 1700?

[Suika]

Just now, Cl1362 said:

Do you think the amount of ram affects the quality to stream and game on the 1700?

I have 16GB of RAM with recording primarily in Overwatch and I've not faced any issues in performance or quality.