Thoughts?

[CornyQuotient14]

This computer is for beginner streaming, and uploading. It is going to be for 1080p 60+ fps gaming. The budget is 1100 dollars, advice would be nice. Thanks!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZQZhpb

[DrMacintosh]

I would get at least an RX 580 for that. 

 

(dont comment saying they cost a lot right now, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT) 

[dizmo]

You're not going to get great frame rates with that graphics card...unless you're playing really non-demanding games.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, CUDA_Cores said:

I would recommend going with a low end card like a GTX 1050 ti or RX 460 just to wait out the crypto mining craze.

Thats just selfish and an abuse of the RMA system. 

 

Do you like RMAs? Because this is how you lose RMAs

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I would get at least an RX 580 for that. 

Which costs a shitton due to mining

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Which costs a shitton due to mining

Dude you dont think everyone knows that? 

[Herman Mcpootis]

try this instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY - XLR8 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($289.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: DIYPC - DIY-BG01 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.96 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($92.99 @ B&H) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I REV 4.2 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1087.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-16 01:23 EDT-0400

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, CornyQuotient14 said:

This computer is for beginner streaming, and uploading. It is going to be for 1080p 60+ fps gaming. The budget is 1100 dollars, advice would be nice. Thanks!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZQZhpb

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($108.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($454.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($27.43 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1080.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-16 01:25 EDT-0400

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Dude you dont think everyone knows that? 

As if mining just started yesterday. 

 

It's been few months now, everyone should know.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($454.98 @ Newegg)

Way overkill for 1080p 

[dizmo]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Thats just selfish and an abuse of the RMA system. 

 

Do you like RMAs? Because this is how you lose RMAs

What do RMAs have to do with what he said at all?

Oh, right. Nothing.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, CUDA_Cores said:

huh? Your post gives me no context. Are you implying buy up the dead cards and RMA them because that is not what I am saying.  I am saying buy the still working cards and use those. I may write a post on this why you should not shy away from these cards. It mostly has to do with the card staying in the same state for a long time and the chip not expanding or contracting all the time and simply staying in an expanded state due to mining. Thse cards aren't as worn out as you may think. In fact if the card was constantly turned on and off all the time placed under a 0-100& fluctuating load it would actually damage the card more. 

Buying a low end card then RMAing it once the RX 580s come back so you can get one of them is abusing the RMA system. 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, dizmo said:

What do RMAs have to do with what he said at all?

Oh, right. Nothing.

He said to get a low end card to wait until the RX 580s come back so you can get your money back and buy one of those. 

 

Thats abuse. 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

I was saying get a GTX 1050 ti and resell it once you can get ahold of a $100 RX 580. You will lose money but it is the only way many gamers can play games now rather than waiting. 

It would just make more sense to not buy the GPU until its in stock. 

[Guest]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Way overkill for 1080p 

1080p 60fps gaming. 

 

Here is why a 1070 is not overkill

 

Plus he is also gonna stream at the same time

 

 

But I am pretty sure you have better suggestions for a good 1080p gaming rig

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

He said to get a low end card to wait until the RX 580s come back so you can get your money back and buy one of those. 

 

Thats abuse. 

He never said to RMA the card in anyway. 

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

1080p 60fps gaming. 

 

Here is why a 1070 is not overkill

 

Plus he is also gonna stream at the same time

 

 

But I am pretty sure you have better suggestions for a good 1080p gaming rig

You managed to find like 2 of the worst performing games ever

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

He never said to RMA the card in anyway. 

Thats what he sounded like. He should have said buy a low end card and then sell it when the higher end ones become available. What he said was..... not as clear

[Guest]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

YOu managed to find like 2 of the worst performing games ever

Please snip the picture when quoting

Yes, I manage to find it, what did you manage to do?

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Please snip the picture when quoting

Yes, I manage to find it, what did you manage to do?

No,

 

And I'm looking at performance overall, not two poorly optimised games, I mean unless hes playing those two games that benchmark is not indicative of the performance of the 1070 or RX 580 at all. 

[dude49]

Get Windows cheap, upgrade gpu next when you have some money later etc. This build has a wireless ac integrated into the mobo

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($126.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card  ($143.77 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair - HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM  120mm Fans  ($81.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1041.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-16 01:32 EDT-0400

[Guest]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Thats what he sounded like. He should have said buy a low end card and then sell it when the higher end ones become available. What he said was..... not as clear

There's a certain time limit on when you can return the card and get a refund. Newegg for example has 30 days last I recall. 

 

Past that, RMA will just fix the card and return you a fixed card or a replacement.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

No,

 

And I'm looking at performance overall, not two poorly optimised games, I mean unless hes playing those two games that benchmark is not indicative of the performance of the 1070 or RX 580 at all. 

What benchmark would be the indication then? Or I will just gonna take random words from you?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

What benchmark would be the indication then? Or I will just gonna take random words from you?

Probably modern games, some real benchmarks, games that are popular, you know the list goes on. 

[dizmo]

14 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

He said to get a low end card to wait until the RX 580s come back so you can get your money back and buy one of those. 

 

Thats abuse. 

Haha, what? No he didn't. No part of his post said anything about returning the old card. Generally with an RMA they don't give you your money back, they give you a new card. So. Even that part of what you said doesn't entirely make sense.

He was suggesting the OP should buy a card from eBay once the miners start liquidating them.