Best/Most Powerful 1366 Chip???

[asand1]

24 minutes ago, Sin Stalker said:

 

 

So I'm not seeing the x56xx options as being supported by my board. Apparently just x55xx options and the two w3680 and 90...

 

 

I may reconsider my plans.

It won't be officially listed anywhere. If you have an X58 board it will work though. Mine did not list them AFAIK. I just started with a $7 E5640 for testing compatibility and then graduated to my X5680.

[asand1]

Is this your board? Gigabyte X58A UD3R?

 

[asand1]

http://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/Intel/Xeon/Xeon_Processor_X5670/2316/Compatible_Motherboards

[asand1]

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?pid=2316&moboList=Xeon Processor X5670

[Sin Stalker]

11 minutes ago, asand1 said:

Is this your board? Gigabyte X58A UD3R?

 

Yes and my BIOs looks exactly like that.

 

Although, I don't trust that OC they have in that video. I think it would start to overheat the NorthBridge. At least that's what I dealt with when OCing my i7 930. I have it where none of the voltage leds are on, except for the four blue ones in the top right corner, which I have no idea what they are too. 

 

Here is the list. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-X58A-UD3R-rev-20#support-cpu

 

So if a x5675 won't work, I was considering just biting a bullet and buying a new MOBO, CPU and RAM. Selling my three would probably take care of about half the price. IDK how I feel about Ryzen though...

 

GAAAH, so frustrated and I haven't even started making my case to my wife yet. I just want to have a system that can VR... so eventually I can get a VR gaming rig and escape RL.

[System Error Message]

grab a xeon 6 core and overclock past 4Ghz with a good cooler. you can use ECC unbufferred ram for even better results.

[Sin Stalker]

Just now, System Error Message said:

grab a xeon 6 core and overclock past 4Ghz with a good cooler. you can use ECC unbufferred ram for even better results.

That's been the plan, until I found the CPUs that I'm interested weren't listed...

[System Error Message]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

That's been the plan, until I found the CPUs that I'm interested weren't listed...

my 6 core 2.6Ghz xeon overclocks to 4.2Ghz using a scythe big shuriken cooler and some ECC ram. It runs physics intensive games well.

[asand1]

2 minutes ago, Sin Stalker said:

That's been the plan, until I found the CPUs that I'm interested weren't listed...

Did you look at the links and the video I posted? They work, confirmed by independent testing. Nothing to worry about.

[Sin Stalker]

1 minute ago, asand1 said:

Did you look at the links and the video I posted? They work, confirmed by independent testing. Nothing to worry about.

I see lists of motherboards, but it says I have to log in to see on one. Other's don't say anything, but just have them on the list.

[asand1]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

I see lists of motherboards, but it says I have to log in to see on one. Other's don't say anything, but just have them on the list.

Uh yeah, they are on the list. Therefore compatible. If they work with the X5670 they will work with any X56** or W53** Xeon. I'm sorry If you are afaid of buying a CPU and not having it work, but I have given you the proof that it does. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make him drink it I suppose.

[asand1]

The Westmere chips were likely releaseed after that list was made and are simply not represented because of that.

[ThatTechKid]

Hey. I suggest getting a new CPU, Motherboard, and RAM as the amount as an old XEON CPU. Here is a part list you may want to consider. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/b7bsCy

It has a 6 core 12 thread AMD Ryzen 1600 CPU. A overclockable B350-PLUS ASUS Motherboard. And, 16GB of G.SKILL AMD Ryzen Compatible DDR4-2400 DRAM. I'm not saying you should buy this, but it is a reccomendation.

[Sin Stalker]

16 minutes ago, asand1 said:

The Westmere chips were likely releaseed after that list was made and are simply not represented because of that.

 

1 minute ago, ThatTechKid said:

Hey. I suggest getting a new CPU, Motherboard, and RAM as the amount as an old XEON CPU. Here is a part list you may want to consider. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/b7bsCy

It has a 6 core 12 thread AMD Ryzen 1600 CPU. A overclockable B350-PLUS ASUS Motherboard. And, 16GB of G.SKILL AMD Ryzen Compatible DDR4-2400 DRAM. I'm not saying you should buy this, but it is a reccomendation.

 

 

Thanks. I think I'm gonna try the x5675 and see how it does. I can always sell it if it doesn't work and go with plan B. Hopefully trying a non-listed chip won't kill my mobo. Need that resell value if I am to upgrade.

[trentbg]

On 7/17/2017 at 8:36 PM, Sin Stalker said:

 

 

 

Thanks. I think I'm gonna try the x5675 and see how it does. I can always sell it if it doesn't work and go with plan B. Hopefully trying a non-listed chip won't kill my mobo. Need that resell value if I am to upgrade.

What did you end up getting?

I have been using the Asus Rampage lll Extreme with Xeon W3570 for the last 4 years and I am not replacing it anytime soon.

The only thing I am upgrading is the CPU, since they are super cheap now, grabbed the W3690, due to the unlocked multiplier (same as on the W3570) much easier to overclock this way and takes less time. The W3570 is on 4ghz and 1.2v, yes only 1.2v, never goes above 66c with H100,even on Prime 24/7. 

[Sin Stalker]

On 10/26/2017 at 9:12 AM, trentbg said:

What did you end up getting?

I have been using the Asus Rampage lll Extreme with Xeon W3570 for the last 4 years and I am not replacing it anytime soon.

The only thing I am upgrading is the CPU, since they are super cheap now, grabbed the W3690, due to the unlocked multiplier (same as on the W3570) much easier to overclock this way and takes less time. The W3570 is on 4ghz and 1.2v, yes only 1.2v, never goes above 66c with H100,even on Prime 24/7. 

Thanks for asking.

 

I bought the x5675. However, while my mobo supports it, I couldn't get the updated BIOS to flash. I also found out that what another person mentioned about x58 not having true usb 3.0 was true. The x58 board, even though it has 3.0, wouldn't work with an Oculus Rift.

 

So given the price of the used mobo, I parted out the CPUs, MOBO and RAM, and bought a Ryzen 1700x.

[Rks87]

Don't be scared of old tech. I'm still running a 1366 18gb ram a $20 x5660 oc to 4.2ghz. Scores a 960 cinebench and games great. 200 for mobo and ram and 20 for cpu. I don't know of anything cheaper that performs close

[Nickie66]

well since someone has resssurected this thread, i'll ask a question here

X5675 vs X 5677 , what do you think ?

i'm quite puzzled because the 6 cores 5675 supposedly has a lower TDP than the 4 cores 5677, and also better performance per core etc , so benchmarks are really confusing me, it even has a lower stock frequency (3.46 vs 3.73...)

what's the deal with that ?!

[Ground]

1 hour ago, Nickie66 said:

well since someone has resssurected this thread, i'll ask a question here

X5675 vs X 5677 , what do you think ?

i'm quite puzzled because the 6 cores 5675 supposedly has a lower TDP than the 4 cores 5677, and also better performance per core etc , so benchmarks are really confusing me, it even has a lower stock frequency (3.46 vs 3.73...)

what's the deal with that ?!

There is no point in the X5677 with the 6 cores being not much more expensive. Most boards manage 210-220 BCLK stable at dailyable settings, so anything above 2.933 GHz default clocks doesn't make much sense anyways. The X5675 is only a couple $ more expensive then the X5670 so its not a terrible idea either, especially since its a bit newer then the x5670.

[Nickie66]

but are the specs right though ? is the 4 cores really getting such a higher TDP with every other spect beind apparently identical to the 6 core equivalent?

i'm getting a x5675 becauuse the price is basically the same , but it feels like something is wrong in the specs

[Ground]

2 hours ago, Nickie66 said:

but are the specs right though ? is the 4 cores really getting such a higher TDP with every other spect beind apparently identical to the 6 core equivalent?

i'm getting a x5675 becauuse the price is basically the same , but it feels like something is wrong in the specs

TDPs are pretty random for x58 stuff, don't bother with it. I honestly doubt my E5649 is only pulling 80W at 4.4 GHz...

[Nickie66]

well obviously the TDP stands for stock frequencies

but even TDP aside, for some reasons the comparing benches even gave better performance in single-core to the slower one so that's weird

but anyway waiting for that x5675 to max out my GA-EX58-Extreme whose i7 960 i feel is starting to bottleneck things

[8GordonFreeman8]

On 7/6/2017 at 5:18 PM, Sin Stalker said:

My current computer is an old i7 930. I can't buy a whole new computer but I can spend a bit to upgrade this one. I want to get the best CPU for this computer. I plan to overclock as well.

 

In my own research I've found the most cores is a six, with 12 threads. I think the top three options are the i7 990x, Xeon X5690 and the W3690. 

 

All three seem almost identical. I have this feeling that they are and Intel just disables certain features per model number. But that's just a suspicion.

 

Which one of those is better or is there another that's better? 

 

 

X56xx series are overclocking monsters. Ur best OC's will see 4.5+@1.35v/1.88/1.262

 

Price to performance x5675. Also via pcie you can overcome many limitations of the dated tech, and some of the later boards (Rampage3X, gigaUd7&9, and more) have Sata 6gbps and usb 3.0. A few even have some really advanced features for their time. X58!!! It will take time but you CAN BOOT NVME via pcie.

[Zando_]

the X5690 is the best X58 Xeon out there AFAIK, @WhisperingKnickers (this is a tag heavy day, lol) has 2 of them in his rig. I ran an X5675 at 4Ghz and that was also excellent, and if you can push one to 4.5GHz or higher they'll challenge an R5 1600. 

[SYNCHRONIC]

Funny to see so many people slating the old x58/LGA1366 processors. I'm getting 995 Cinebench scores on my x5675, overclocked to 4.2ghz, 6 cores/12 threads. Does everything I need from the latest games, to music production/mixing (massive sessions at that, with upto 100 audio tracks and another 50+ VST Instruments/Sample libraries), video editing/rendering etc...

 

8 years on and it can still keep up with the new i7's and Ryzen chips.