1060 Bottlenecking?

[Guest]

Will a Ryzen 5 1500X or a Intel i5-7500 bottleneck a GTX 1060?

[saibalroop]

No. 

[Guest]

Just now, saibalroop said:

No. 

sweet thanks

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, NovaMan01 said:

sweet thanks

get a ryzen 1500x 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

get a ryzen 1500x 

yea i just built an equivalent of my build just to be fair and for fun

[jymbob12]

1500x and no bottleneck

[Mi26]

No

[emosun]

people don't seem to understand that a bottleneck only happens when that specific component maxes out to a point where the other components slow down.

Saying "no" , isn't correct. The correct answer is "depends on the application".

If I run cinebench which has high cpu usage and low gpu usage then the bottleneck is the cpu. If I do a 4k run of Heaven which has high gpu usage and low cpu usage then the bottleneck is the gpu not the cpu. Depends on the application.

[MadyTehWolfie]

5 minutes ago, emosun said:

people don't seem to understand that a bottleneck only happens when that specific component maxes out to a point where the other components slow down.

Saying "no" , isn't correct. The correct answer is "depends on the application".

If I run cinebench which has high cpu usage and low gpu usage then the bottleneck is the cpu. If I do a 4k run of Heaven which has high gpu usage and low cpu usage then the bottleneck is the gpu not the cpu. Depends on the application.

Not quite. Bottle neck are when another component holds back another from 100% utilization. Cinebench would not bottle neck the CPU just tests it's peak performance. A better situation to give is when a GPU is at 100% and the CPU is at 99 or lower % utilized and vise versa.  You can't say a GPU test is bottle necking anything as it's not holding anything back. In this case the only time it would probably bottle neck the CPU is if he goes high HZ on demanding games. Though with a 1060 this is unlikely. My answer is no bottle neck here.

[ARikozuM]

It would depend on the program, but I can't think of many programs that would cause one to stop the other. 

19 minutes ago, emosun said:

If I run cinebench which has high cpu usage and low gpu usage then the bottleneck is the cpu. If I do a 4k run of Heaven which has high gpu usage and low cpu usage then the bottleneck is the gpu not the cpu. Depends on the application.

You can't use benchmarks to demonstrate bottlenecks unless said bench relies on both components. Cinebench is a CPU benchmark meaning that the GPU is hardly used for it's performance. 

 

[emosun]

11 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Bottle neck are when another component holds back another from 100% utilization.

no? it's when a component has reached 100% utilization and prevents another from operating at normal parameters.

If a component is at 100% usage it's not fast enough.

[emosun]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

Cinebench is a CPU benchmark meaning that the GPU is hardly used for it's performance. 

yea... so the cpu would be quite busy while the gpu had nothing to do. if the cpu is 100% busy and the gpu has not much to do , then the slowest component in that specific application is the cpu.

Now if i ran cinebench with a monocrome apple II ISA display adapter , there's a very real chance the adapter couldn't display the program or even the mouse pointer fast enough meaning the display adapter could actually slow down the cpu. the display adapter would be at 100% usage just trying to show the program and the cpu would have to wait for it to catch up making the gpu the bottleneck.

It doesn't really matter as the program was to illustrate a point , if you want to nit pick purposely chosen extremes of cpu and gpu loads then go right ahead.

[MadyTehWolfie]

9 hours ago, emosun said:

no? it's when a component has reached 100% utilization and prevents another from operating at normal parameters.

If a component is at 100% usage it's not fast enough.

True though in the case of a synthetic benchmark it's not being bottle necked in the same sense. It just doesn't have the performance to infinitely render everything. Benchmarks are supposed to use 100% of anything put on it to test it's peak performance. In a sense it's being bottle necked but not what I'd call a actual bottle neck in real world applications such as video editing ect. And even then if it's 100% utilized and your getting the desired performance it's not really a bottle neck for your desired application. Suppose you could say the same for a benchmark but then you'll be forever upgrading your PC. #RIP monies