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KieuVanQuan
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My system:

 

i5-4460 3.2ghz

32gb of system RAM ddr3

main boot drive where OS is installed: Plextor M8Pe(y) 256gb PCI-E SSD

current OS: win8.1 pro x64

bios feature: legacy boot OFF. I installed windows on full UEFI

 

Now...I've seen youtube videos where Samsung 850 series sata3 SSD's boot faster than my PCI-E SSD. And I've also seen videos where Samsung 960 EVO M2 SSD boots faster and loads GTA V story mode ~11 seconds faster than my PCI-E SSD.

 

Oh and when I tried to install the plextor ssd's utility (it should be similar to Samsung Magician) it says "no plextor SSD is detected" but windows detects it and it works. 

 

Am I doing something wrong or I just bought the wrong product? :S This Plextor SSD even has a passive cooling on it so...damn.

 

 

CPU i5-4460 @ 3.2 ghz | Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X Gaming 7 | RAM 32gb Corsair Vengance 1600mhz | GPU GTX-750 TI | Case Carbide 400R | SSD Plextor M8Pe(Y) 256gb NVME | SSHD Barracuda 1TB | PSU CX430 | Display LG 29UM55-P Ultrawide | Keyboard Trust 3-way LED | Mouse Razer Death Adder V2 Left Handed | Speakers Genius SW-HF 5.1 6000 | Headset Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO | Sound Card Xonar Essence STXII | OS Windows 8.1 x64 Professional, build 9600 | Theme(s) Windows 7, Vista & Aero from DeviantArt

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Does your mobo supports PCIe SSD?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

Does your mobo supports PCIe SSD?

I don't know. 

 

I use Gigabyte GA Z97 GAMING 7 mobo but it says it supports M.2 ssd's so I think it should support PCI E SSD's as well

CPU i5-4460 @ 3.2 ghz | Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X Gaming 7 | RAM 32gb Corsair Vengance 1600mhz | GPU GTX-750 TI | Case Carbide 400R | SSD Plextor M8Pe(Y) 256gb NVME | SSHD Barracuda 1TB | PSU CX430 | Display LG 29UM55-P Ultrawide | Keyboard Trust 3-way LED | Mouse Razer Death Adder V2 Left Handed | Speakers Genius SW-HF 5.1 6000 | Headset Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO | Sound Card Xonar Essence STXII | OS Windows 8.1 x64 Professional, build 9600 | Theme(s) Windows 7, Vista & Aero from DeviantArt

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2 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Does your mobo supports PCIe SSD?

Well, if it doesn't then it would be magic that he was able to boot games and windows off that SSD

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Moved to troubleshooting. 

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3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well, if it doesn't then it would be magic that he was able to boot games and windows off that SSD

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Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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my guess is you're to a point where bootup time is limited by your processor, rather than the speed of other things.

 

booting up windows isnt just "loading things into ram", there's a certain amount of processing involved as well.

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How does the drive benchmark in something like crystaldiskmark? My Plextor M8Pe does the expected 2200MB/s read.

 

If it's much slower than 2000MB/s, try to move the pci-e card to another pci-e slot since there could be a bottleneck on that slot.


Another guess is that maybe you have some bad ram or need to reseat it. Download the trial for burnintest or memtest86, and run the ram burn in/memtest. If you get RAM errors, there's your culprit.

 

The motherboard is also a possibility too. Old boards can get flaky.

 

Best of luck

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This sounds like a MB issue. I have the older Gaming 3 board, but when i clean install the system, depending on specifics on how i installed software and drivers, it would boot in 15 seconds or 15 minutes. The biggest item that affects it seems to be the Killer network drivers or software. If it were a problem with the drive, it would not have installed. As far as the SSD software not recognizing, Windows could be reporting it as an HDD instead so the software probably wouldnt see it. You could also check the UEFI settings and verify the drive mode ie legacy, AHCI, SATA, etc. These should be set to AHCI to get the full benefit. Of course you need to make sure you set the registry to AHCI mode and then change UEFI setting otherwise you will BSoD.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, fieldcar said:

How does the drive benchmark in something like crystaldiskmark? My Plextor M8Pe does the expected 2200MB/s read.

 

If it's much slower than 2000MB/s, try to move the pci-e card to another pci-e slot since there could be a bottleneck on that slot.


Another guess is that maybe you have some bad ram or need to reseat it. Download the trial for burnintest or memtest86, and run the ram burn in/memtest. If you get RAM errors, there's your culprit.

 

The motherboard is also a possibility too. Old boards can get flaky.

 

Best of luck

My mobo is not old. It's gigabyte gaming 7.

 

speeds:

(I recall having random blue screen of deaths and I know i checked the err msg but I can't remember what exactly it was. It had to do something with ram btw. )

My ram are: "corsair vengance ddr3 4x8gb ~1600mhz stock". do you think this ram brand is bad?

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CPU i5-4460 @ 3.2 ghz | Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X Gaming 7 | RAM 32gb Corsair Vengance 1600mhz | GPU GTX-750 TI | Case Carbide 400R | SSD Plextor M8Pe(Y) 256gb NVME | SSHD Barracuda 1TB | PSU CX430 | Display LG 29UM55-P Ultrawide | Keyboard Trust 3-way LED | Mouse Razer Death Adder V2 Left Handed | Speakers Genius SW-HF 5.1 6000 | Headset Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO | Sound Card Xonar Essence STXII | OS Windows 8.1 x64 Professional, build 9600 | Theme(s) Windows 7, Vista & Aero from DeviantArt

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On 5/25/2017 at 3:01 PM, KieuVanQuan said:

My mobo is not old. It's gigabyte gaming 7.

 

speeds:

(I recall having random blue screen of deaths and I know i checked the err msg but I can't remember what exactly it was. It had to do something with ram btw. )

My ram are: "corsair vengance ddr3 4x8gb ~1600mhz stock". do you think this ram brand is bad?

I would definitely check the RAM. It may not actually be bad, but it could need a bit of extra voltage or a slower clock/looser timings to ensure stability/reduce read&write errors if you do a burn in test. For example, I have to run my 3200Mhz ram at 2966 because the memory controller on my processor just wont let me.

 

I hope you get to the bottom of the issue, but it definitely sounds like you should download the trial of burnintest and check out that ram.

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