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I had a build in mind to build a ryzen 5 rig with a MSI tomahawk... I thought they were great until I heard here on the forums that they are not?

 

Why are they so bad?

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One of the example MSI uses low quality components:

(I have no idea why the video not starting at 0.00, sorry about that)

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44 minutes ago, JerrBear said:

I had a build in mind to build a ryzen 5 rig with a MSI tomahawk... I thought they were great until I heard here on the forums that they are not?

 

Why are they so bad?

Lower quality as stated above and they were having BIOS issues with AM4 causing reallyyyyy long POST times (I don't know if they resolved this though). To be safe just get an AsRock or ASUS Prime for almost the same cost.

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39 minutes ago, mok said:

dont read forums 

read product reviews on amazon and newegg

This is pretty bad advice... A shocking amount of consumers know f**k all... They either plug it in and it works or it doesn't. They often leave bad reviews on say a motherboard when the issue is obviously not the motherboard.

 

A tech forum > Average amazon review.

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16 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

This is pretty bad advice... A shocking amount of consumers know f**k all... They either plug it in and it works or it doesn't. They often leave bad reviews on say a motherboard when the issue is obviously not the motherboard.

 

A tech forum > Average amazon review.

Or better yet, read a proper professional review from someone reputable

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9 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

One of the example MSI uses low quality components:

(I have no idea why the video not starting at 0.00, sorry about that)

Is this a joke or fact?

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

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3 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Is this a joke or fact?

what the video?

 

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4 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

what the video?

 

Yes, because I want to buy Gaming Pro Carbon series

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

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My head on 2019 :

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10 minutes ago, App4that said:

Don't, get a Gigabyte, Asus, or Asrock. 

Why? I am not regretting for an Asus P5G41TM-LX. But I'll give MSI a shot

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

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My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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Just now, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Why? I am not regretting for an Asus P5G41TM-LX. But I'll give MSI a shot

MSI went cheap on the components. Why would you buy a cheap motherboard priced like a high end model?

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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Just now, App4that said:

MSI went cheap on the components. Why would you buy a cheap motherboard priced like a high end model?

Hmm...

 

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"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

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My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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22 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Yes, because I want to buy Gaming Pro Carbon series

the person they use for said video, knows his stuff about a good motherboard, hence GN use him for all the board analysis

 

 

if you want a good ryzen board get the asus crosshair 6

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3 minutes ago, App4that said:

@Ordinarily_Greater

 

No where does that address the components used, just an excited new builder. You get more motherboard for the money elsewhere. If you want to over spend to get a logo, have at it. 

I don't mind for long Post times, but after I think it was risky. So yeah I hope this has long endurance

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

Spoiler

My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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2 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

the person they use for said video, knows his stuff about a good motherboard, hence GN use him for all the board analysis

 

 

if you want a good ryzen board get the asus crosshair 6

What? I don't have money for that yet. However, I'll just leave you (nah just kidding, comeback whenever you mention me) fanboys (not really) with a LGA 775 and GTX 970. Bye!

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

Spoiler

My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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Just now, Ordinarily_Greater said:

What? I don't have money for that yet. However, I'll just leave you (nah just kidding, comeback whenever you mention me) fanboys (not really) with a LGA 775 and GTX 970. Bye!

did you just assume im a fanboy /s

according to OC3D IT ISone of the best ryzen motherboards available

 

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Just now, KOMTechAndGaming said:

did you just assume im a fanboy /s

according to OC3D IT ISone of the best ryzen motherboards available

 

No, I say not really. I like the reinforced pcie slot, so it can be a chair for an elephant

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

Spoiler

My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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31 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

did you just assume im a fanboy /s

according to OC3D IT ISone of the best ryzen motherboards available

 

My friend told me that his Asus Motherboard (ROG series) suddenly broke, but after a maintenance he can play again

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

Spoiler

My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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Just now, Ordinarily_Greater said:

My friend told me that his Asus Motherboard (ROG series) suddenly broke, but after a maintenance he can play again

what broke?

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1 minute ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

what broke?

His Maximus vii hero suddenly fails and yeah, that's bothering. Is long POST times risky?

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

Spoiler

My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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2 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

His Maximus vii hero suddenly fails and yeah, that's bothering. Is long POST times risky?

no, tis just a pain if you want to get on your pc quick

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5 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

no, tis just a pain if you want to get on your pc quick

OK, sorry i mentioned you fan*** before. I am not that hurry person too

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

Mention me if you want to summon me sooner or later

Spoiler

My head on 2019 :

Note 10, S10, Samsung becomes Apple, Zen 2, 3700X, Renegade X lol

 

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