I'm done with Windows 10

[DrMacintosh]

Hello. 

 

Ever since the Windows 10 CU starting up Chrome at log in has been wonderful.......

 

Upon starting up I always launch Chrome. Chrome them proceeds to load up my last sessions plages. As it does this.....all the loading icons freeze and chrome becomes unresponsive. 

 

So of course you go into task manager to end the program and start it again......but no. You cant do that. If you do that Chrome will not open again via any means. You have to restart....even doing that today caused my system to be stuck on "restarting" so I had to hold down the power button to force a shut down.  

 

Today the issue happened again but this time I decided to investigate further. But I really couldnt do anything. I couldnt even launch settings without it lagging. 

 

Task Manager was taking up like 40% CPU and total usage was like 70%........

 

So what gives? Why is it that with Microsoft, every time a  major update comes out something (or everything) breaks? 

 

Windows 10 has given my more headaches than a chronic migraine patient.....3 full reinstalls, driver issues, memory problems that have nothing to do with the modules and more!

 

at this point I have to ask myself, What is keeping me from Installing MacOS on my machine? Or god forbid Linux.......

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Keep calm and install Windows 7

why go back to an old operating system that is made by the same people who made the crapfest that is Windows 10? And isnt MS cutting support for Windows 7 way sooner than they should be? 

[xDylanio]

Rage

[Enderman]

Sounds like you're probably doing something wrong.

[DrMacintosh]

7 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Sounds like you're probably doing something wrong.

I love this reasoning. 

 

Nothing about my PC has changed since or after the creator's update, except the creators update. 

 

Prior to it: all systems normal

after it: Chrome locks up the system after startup and the only solution is a hard reboot. 

 

Yeah, I'm doing something wrong.  

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

I don't like where MS is going with their forced updates either

But if you need a Windows environment for specific use, then Win10 is your only choice apart from running it in a VM on Mac

Personally Win10 has been functioning just fine for me even though I buried Cortana/Edge and blocked all telemetry at the router level

You're still on the internet though.

So even if you blocked windows 10 telemetry there are still plenty of websites, software, and even your phone still tracking the exact same stuff.

If you want to stop telemetry you need to unplug your ethernet cable and stop using a phone too.

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

then Win10 is your only choice apart from running it in a VM on Mac

Im seriously considering running MacOS natively on this machine. 

 

this is known as Hackintoshing. 

 

I dont really need a Windows environment. Ever since I got a MacBook all I use this PC for is gaming and intense multitasking. 

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I love this reasoning. 

 

Nothing about my PC has changed since or after the creator's update, except the creators update. 

 

Prior to it: all systems normal

after it: Chrome locks up the system after startup and the only solution is a hard reboot. 

 

Yeah, I'm doing something wrong.  

Just because it seems normal doesn't mean everything is. (do you know what event viewer is?)

One of my computers seemed normal, but because it was still upgraded from 7 I knew that the update was going to have issues, so I clean installed and everything works perfectly.

 

If you are having problems after clean installing then you are 100% doing something wrong, or have a hardware issue.

[manikyath]

19 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Keep calm and install Windows 7

keep calm and use a modern freaking OS.

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sounds like the update bricked something, up to you to find out what. best to start off with the usual sfc /scannow, reinstalling gpu drivers, etc.

[GoodBytes]

26 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Upon starting up I always launch Chrome. Chrome them proceeds to load up my last sessions plages. As it does this.....all the loading icons freeze and chrome becomes

unresponsive. 

Sounds like your missing your motherboard chipset drivers, or they aren't compatible with the Creators Update.

Get the latest motherboard chipset drivers, uninstall the old ones, restart, and install the latest ones. If your HDD/SSD is using a separate SATA controller like an additional one included by the motherboard manufacture, you need to re-install its drivers as well. Restart your system after.

 

To ensure that Chrome didn't get corrupted by the chipset driver issue, uninstall it, and re-install the latest version of Chrome.

 

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So of course you go into task manager to end the program and start it again......but no. You cant do that. If you do that Chrome will not open again via any means. You have to restart....even doing that today caused my system to be stuck on "restarting" so I had to hold down the power button to force a shut down.  

I don't think you killed Chrome. Go under the Details tab, pick each Chrome.exe you find, and click on "End task".

 

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Today the issue happened again but this time I decided to investigate further. But I really couldnt do anything. I couldnt even launch settings without it lagging. 

Task Manager was taking up like 40% CPU and total usage was like 70%........

Chipset driver issue

 

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So what gives? Why is it that with Microsoft, every time a  major update comes out something (or everything) breaks? 

Why, is that every time they are updates, you don't update your stuff? Update yours drivers before starting the process, and make sure your hardware is compatible with the latest update of Windows. Microsoft recommends to wait for your wave to come before upgrading. If you force things, then you can fall into these kind of issues.

 

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Windows 10 has given my more headaches than a chronic migraine patient.....3 full reinstalls, driver issues, memory problems that have nothing to do with the modules and more!

Well you are clearly doing something wrong, or your computer is not Windows 10 ready.

 

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at this point I have to ask myself, What is keeping me from Installing MacOS on my machine? Or god forbid Linux.......

Go ahead. If your PC isn't Windows 10 ready, or you having difficulty using Windows 10, then another OS might be best for you.

Windows has different tools in your hand to diagnose issues. You have the Event Viewer available as mentioned, and you have Memory diagnostic scan, you can also check for HDD/SSD failures via S.M.A.R.T technology. You can use a disk utility to get that information in an understandable fashion, or you can do a disk scan from Windows.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Enderman said:

or have a hardware issue.

There is no evidence to support that claim. 

 

I once thought I might be having memory issues due to a crash that was related to memory. After reinstalling I ran Memtest 86 and it could not find anything.  

[manikyath]

Just now, GoodBytes said:

or your computer is not Windows 10 ready.

i suggest you go look at OP's profile.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Why, is that every time they are updates, you don't update your stuff?

So microsoft expects me to update my motherboards chipset drivers? In addition to updating the OS itself and updating my GPU drivers.........Maybe I should have bought a iMac...... 

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

There is no evidence to support that claim. 

 

I once thought I might be having memory issues due to a crash that was related to memory. After reinstalling I ran Memtest 86 and it could not find anything.  

Did you even read?

I said "after clean installing" in that sentence.

You just said so yourself, you clean installed and it fixed it, so it was obviously not a hardware issue.

 

If you clean installed and it had NOT fixed it, then it would have been a hardware issue (or possibly you not knowing how to clean install properly)

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

I know that. I have a buttload of domains/ip ranges also blocked at the router. On top of that, Hostsman, uBlock origin, and Netlimiter on my PC. Adaway, Afwall+ and heavy app permission controls on my phone's custom rom. Phone also goes back to a private hosted VPN on a home PC that is behind the router. Everything goes to Opendns/Dnscrypt. I do what I can to protect my privacy, and have it at the point where most free phone apps FC or refuse to run because they can't connect to ad servers or dial home to random-ass locations in China.

That's good, I just assumed you were one of those people that pretends to care about privacy and complains about windows telemetry while letting their ISP, google, and every other site take the same or more data than microsoft does

[DrMacintosh]

16 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Sounds like your missing your motherboard chipset drivers, or they aren't compatible with the Creators Update.

Get the latest motherboard chipset drivers, uninstall the old ones, restart, and install the latest ones. If your HDD/SSD is using a separate SATA controller like an additional one included by the motherboard manufacture, you need to re-install its drivers as well. Restart your system after.

 

To ensure that Chrome didn't get corrupted by the chipset driver issue, uninstall it, and re-install the latest version of Chrome.

 

I don't think you killed Chrome. Go under the Details tab, pick each Chrome.exe you find, and click on "End task".

 

Chipset driver issue

 

Why, is that every time they are updates, you don't update your stuff? Update yours drivers before starting the process, and make sure your hardware is compatible with the latest update of Windows. Microsoft recommends to wait for your wave to come before upgrading. If you force things, then you can fall into these kind of issues.

 

Well you are clearly doing something wrong, or your computer is not Windows 10 ready.

 

Go ahead. If your PC isn't Windows 10 ready, or you having difficulty using Windows 10, then another OS might be best for you.

Windows has different tools in your hand to diagnose issues. You have the Event Viewer available as mentioned, and you have Memory diagnostic scan, you can also check for HDD/SSD failures via S.M.A.R.T technology. You can use a disk utility to get that information in an understandable fashion, or you can do a disk scan from Windows.

Update I installed all the available chipset drivers from Gigabyte:

Intel Management Engine Interface [11.0.01158]

Intel INF installation [10.1.1.8]

 

After installing my start menu didnt work but I didnt expect it to seeing as the system literally updated itself on the fly. 

 

After a restart chrome launched normally and the start menu returned. 

 

Im still salty about Microsoft's direction and management. 

[pipnina]

If windows10 annoys you that much (as much as it did me), I recommend Ubuntu 16.04 (based on the CPU you use in your sig, you won't see a benefit to 17.04) or another Ubuntu variant (Kubuntu/Lubuntu/GNOME/MATE, depending on UI preference). Or maybe Mint Cinnamon.

 

Honestly, unless there's an issue with the graphics drivers, it's ready to use out the box. And since you have an AMD chip there is a 90% chance you won't need to install any drivers at all (Mesa is very competitive now).

 

Don't know what you use your PC for, but it's deffo an option. (worked for me anyway) And for some things (i.e. video editing) you might be able to get away with running windows 10 in a VM when you need it.

[GoodBytes]

2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

So microsoft expects me to update my motherboards chipset drivers? In addition to updating the OS itself and updating my GPU drivers.........Maybe I should have bought a iMac...... 

Sure! Microsoft can only go as far as providing drivers through Windows Update system as they receive them from manufactures and that assuming that the manufacture wants this.

 

On Apple system, Apple write most of the drivers for its OS, this allows full control of the quality of the drivers, and ensures that drivers are updated correctly with the OS updates. In addition, Apple limited hardware configuration, and full controlled on the hardware setup, limits possible hardware configuration issues to worry about, and focus on these specific set of configuration to test their OS, ensure that it will works perfectly each time.

 

The closest experience you get to Apple on Windows side, is Microsoft Surface line products. It's firmware and drivers are fully tested and control by Microsoft. When it is ready, Windows Update will have the latest patch and delivered to you, and those would be installed before your wave comes in of Windows 10 update.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

On Apple system, Apple write most of the drivers for its OS, this allows full control of the quality of the drivers, and ensures that drivers are updated correctly with the OS updates. In addition, Apple limited hardware configuration, and full controlled on the hardware setup, limits possible hardware configuration issues to worry about, and focus on these specific set of configuration to test their OS, ensure that it will works perfectly each time.

which is why I bought a MacBook. 

[GoodBytes]

10 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

which is why I bought a MacBook. 

Excellent! Buy what caters to your needs, and makes you happy. Don't buy things because others buy it to.