adaptive vertical sync

[Natan77]

am am running a GTX 1070 i7 6700k with a crappy 60 hz monitor and set vertical sync to adaptive in the nvidia control panel, and turn v sync off. I don\t notice tearing, If I buy a non gsync monitor would I notice any tearing with adaptive sync? I will either do 1080p 144 hz or 1440p 144hz.  

[Mr.Meerkat]

8 minutes ago, Natan77 said:

am am running a GTX 1070 i7 6700k with a crappy 60 hz monitor and set vertical sync to adaptive in the nvidia control panel, and turn v sync off. I don\t notice tearing, If I buy a non gsync monitor would I notice any tearing with adaptive sync? I will either do 1080p 144 hz or 1440p 144hz.  

If you want to use Adaptive sync, you need a monitor with G-sync (aka freesync for AMD/adaptive sync for Intel). Also, are you sure you're not using adaptive V-sync rather than adaptive sync? Without a G-sync monitor, you shouldn't be able to turn adaptive sync (AKA G-sync) on. 

 

Edit: I need to learn to read...

 

[Glenwing]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

If you want to use Adaptive sync, you need a monitor with G-sync (aka freesync for AMD/adaptive sync for Intel). Also, are you sure you're not using adaptive V-sync rather than adaptive sync? Without a G-sync monitor, you shouldn't be able to turn adaptive sync (AKA G-sync) on. 

He's talking about Adaptive V-Sync

[Godlygamer23]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

If you want to use Adaptive sync, you need a monitor with G-sync (aka freesync for AMD/adaptive sync for Intel). Also, are you sure you're not using adaptive V-sync rather than adaptive sync?

The OP has acknowledged that they're using V-Sync:

"[...]and set vertical sync to adaptive in the nvidia control panel[...]" and also the title itself "adaptive vertical sync".

[Mr.Meerkat]

Just now, Glenwing said:

He's talking about Adaptive V-Sync

 

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

The OP has acknowledged that they're using V-Sync:

"[...]and set vertical sync to adaptive in the nvidia control panel[...]" and also the title itself "adaptive vertical sync".

Whoops, misread it  

 

On a side note, do I really need 2 mods correcting me on the same issue?  

[Godlygamer23]

Just now, Mr.Meerkat said:

Whoops, misread it  

 

On a side note, do I really need 2 mods correcting me on the same issue?  

I had no idea Glenwing was in the thread. 

[Natan77]

in the manage 3d settings vertical sync is set to adaptive my monitor is the LG flatron w2453v nothing special. 

[Mr.Meerkat]

@Godlygamer23 @Glenwing

This was the bit that probably confused me...

10 minutes ago, Natan77 said:

 If I buy a non gsync monitor would I notice any tearing with adaptive sync?

Didn't specifically state adaptive V-sync  

 

Anyway, if you want adaptive sync with your 1070, you need a G-sync monitor and if you're talking about adaptive V-sync, you shouldn't notice any screen tearing as it should still be limiting to the refresh rate of your monitor although you may notice a little bit of input lag. 

[Glenwing]

If you have a 60 Hz monitor:

 

Adaptive V-Sync:

• While framerate is above 60 fps, V-Sync is on, eliminating tearing
• While framerate is below 60 fps, you have nothing, V-Sync is off and tearing is possible again
• Can be used on any screen

G-Sync:

• While framerate is above 60 fps, V-Sync is on, eliminating tearing; (Same behavior as when using Adaptive V-Sync; but FastSync may also be chosen instead of normal V-Sync)
• While framerate is below 60 fps, G-Sync takes over, eliminating tearing in that range
• Can only be used with G-Sync screen

You also have the option of running G-Sync alone (no V-Sync activation above 60 fps), which will make tearing possible again.

[Dabombinable]

Looking at the page from Nvidia, it pretty much automatically turns vsync on when the FPS are high, and off when the FPS is low:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/adaptive-vsync

So it should be just fine on any screen.

[Natan77]

so even tho I have v sync turned off in game settings. having vertical sync set to adaptive in the nvidia control panel. basically makes it the same thing as having v sync on in game? 

[Godlygamer23]

Just now, Natan77 said:

so even tho I have v sync turned off in game settings. having vertical sync set to adaptive in the nvidia control panel. basically makes it the same thing as having v sync on in game? 

Yes, because the drivers override the game setting unless you set it to obey the game setting.

[Rakso]

Side question.
While gsync is nice to have. As long as I dont go below the refresh rate of my monitor, I should be good without it? Although I hear that if you turn on the sync so that you wont get tearing, you'll be laggy?
Basically, if I get a $200 monitor over a ~$400 one, will I have a bad time?

[Techicolors]

6 minutes ago, Rakso said:

Side question.
While gsync is nice to have. As long as I dont go below the refresh rate of my monitor, I should be good without it? Although I hear that if you turn on the sync so that you wont get tearing, you'll be laggy?
Basically, if I get a $200 monitor over a ~$400 one, will I have a bad time?

you'll get tearing as soon as you drop below the refresh rate of your monitor. it might not be noticeable if you run at high fps, like 100+ but it may be noticeable as you go lower. it's entirely subjective though, however i know that once you see tearing and when it occurs, you may not be able to unsee it 

 

G-sync and freesync, or any adaptive sync technology will be able to dynamically change the refresh rate to the fps you're getting in-game. this eliminates tearing and also smooths out some rough spots. buuut you still have to experience it yourself. it would be nifty if there's a shop near you or you have a friend that can let you test drive g-sync. 

 

meanwhile g-sync also adds ULMB, which is a plus if motion blur is an issue.

 

what monitors are you looking at?

 

1 hour ago, Glenwing said:

If you have a 60 Hz monitor:

 

Adaptive V-Sync:

• While framerate is above 60 fps, V-Sync is on, eliminating tearing
• While framerate is below 60 fps, you have nothing, V-Sync is off and tearing is possible again
• Can be used on any screen

G-Sync:

• While framerate is above 60 fps, V-Sync is on, eliminating tearing; (Same behavior as when using Adaptive V-Sync; but FastSync may also be chosen instead of normal V-Sync)
• While framerate is below 60 fps, G-Sync takes over, eliminating tearing in that range
• Can only be used with G-Sync screen

You also have the option of running G-Sync alone (no V-Sync activation above 60 fps), which will make tearing possible again.

in addition, i find this graphic to be quite informative 

[Rakso]

Well I'm still deciding between a light gaming build or a higher end one. For the lighter one, Im sure the monitor wont matter a great deal. But for the higher end one, was just looking at a predator or xf240H. Even if I have an nvidia card, the 240H seems like a pretty good monitor for good price. Its 144hz, so I was hoping that higher refresh rate would make it ok that I wouldnt have gsync. But looking at what Glen said, if the parameters shift to 144 with the monitor, then I'd be under and that wouldnt be good? Sorry, I know im all over the place, lol

[Techicolors]

2 hours ago, Rakso said:

Well I'm still deciding between a light gaming build or a higher end one. For the lighter one, Im sure the monitor wont matter a great deal. But for the higher end one, was just looking at a predator or xf240H. Even if I have an nvidia card, the 240H seems like a pretty good monitor for good price. Its 144hz, so I was hoping that higher refresh rate would make it ok that I wouldnt have gsync. But looking at what Glen said, if the parameters shift to 144 with the monitor, then I'd be under and that wouldnt be good? Sorry, I know im all over the place, lol

i'm not sure what you're talking about with parameter shift. please clarify 

[Rakso]

As in, if I took what glen said about the 60hz monitor. and change it to a 144hz. Would all those things he listed still hold true. but with the number "144" replacing all the "60"

[Glenwing]

22 minutes ago, Rakso said:

As in, if I took what glen said about the 60hz monitor. and change it to a 144hz. Would all those things he listed still hold true. but with the number "144" replacing all the "60"

Yes