Ryzen 1700x Temps at 100 C???

[friendly]

Based on the info here:

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update

 

They state that the temps displayed are 20 C more than what it actually is. So, does that mean that when I get a reading of 100 C when doing a stress test, I'm actually at 80 C and perfectly fine?

 

I am testing on a variety of programs: Cinebench, RealBench, AIDA64, FurMark, and Valley Benchmark. Monitoring with HWMonitor, with CPU-Z and Ryzen Master to double check. Not simultaneously, of course.

 

Build:

Ryzen 1700x at 3.8ghz (still testing the overclocking)

ASUS B350 Prime Plus

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb DDR4-3000 (running at 2666)

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Samsung 850 EVO 500gb SSD

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD

EVGA GTX 1060 6gb

EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550 watt

Fractal Define R4

[DocSwag]

Yeah, it's actually 80C. What stress test are you using?

[DrMikeNZ]

On my R7 1700 I got under 80°C full load at 3.8 GHz with the stock cooler. I would have expected you to be able to get temperatures lower than that.

What voltage are you running?

[manikyath]

can i just say that overclocking a chip with 95 watt TDP on a hyper212 evo probably isnt the greatest idea i've heard today?

[friendly]

Damn, meant to mention the programs. I've edited the original post. Also included here:

 

I am testing on a variety of programs: Cinebench, RealBench, AIDA64, FurMark, and Valley Benchmark. Monitoring with HWMonitor, with CPU-Z and Ryzen Master to double check. Not simultaneously, of course.

 

Trying not to let the voltage go above 1.4. Still working on getting a stable overclock.

[DrMikeNZ]

4 minutes ago, manikyath said:

can i just say that overclocking a chip with 95 watt TDP on a hyper212 evo probably isnt the greatest idea i've heard today?

My R7 1700 still only draws 65W at 3.8GHz on all cores. I would imagine the 1700X should be able to be both clocked to 3.8GHz on all cores, and undervolted to reduce power consumption and heat.

[manikyath]

Just now, DrMikeNZ said:

My R7 1700 still only draws 65W at 3.8GHz on all cores. I would imagine the 1700X should be able to be both clocked to 3.8GHz on all cores, and undervolted to reduce power consumption and heat.

but... the 1700 is a 65 watt TDP chip, the 1700x is a 95 watt TDP chip, i'm pretty sure AMD did at least some form of binning process to do that, and it's not just "oh, this chip is now slower and uses less power".

 

coming to think of it, it's probably like intel's e3 xeons: they're pretty much the same chip, but they're from the very power efficient bins, which just also dont clock as high as for example a K chip bin.

[DrMikeNZ]

Just now, manikyath said:

but... the 1700 is a 65 watt TDP chip, the 1700x is a 95 watt TDP chip, i'm pretty sure AMD did at least some form of binning process to do that, and it's not just "oh, this chip is now slower and uses less power".

 

coming to think of it, it's probably like intel's e3 xeons: they're pretty much the same chip, but they're from the very power efficient bins, which just also dont clock as high as for example a K chip bin.

When increasing voltages to what the 1700X uses, the 1700 also drew ~95W. It is possible the 1700X won't undervolt, although I would expect the 1700X to still achieve 3.8GHz without having to raise its power draw and heat output above what the 212 evo can handle.

[manikyath]

Just now, DrMikeNZ said:

When increasing voltages to what the 1700X uses, the 1700 also drew ~95W. It is possible the 1700X won't undervolt, although I would expect the 1700X to still achieve 3.8GHz without having to raise its power draw and heat output above what the 212 evo can handle.

well.. appareantly.. it's cutting quite close

[friendly]

OK, so to confirm, 100 C (80 in reality) is fine? 

 

So, why might my CPU be running hot? I reset everything to stock and am doing a stress test in RealBench, and at load I'm at 80 C the whole time.

[DrMikeNZ]

9 minutes ago, friendly said:

OK, so to confirm, 100 C (80 in reality) is fine? 

 

So, why might my CPU be running hot? I reset everything to stock and am doing a stress test in RealBench, and at load I'm at 80 C the whole time.

If your processor is under erratic load, and spiking to 80°C then back to ambient on a regular basis, you might get issues with expansion and contraction causing unwanted wear on the processor.

 

80°C real, or measured (60°C)? What clockspeed on all cores and voltage does the CPU run at stock when under load?

You could try reseating the cooler with better thermal paste.