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ok, you're about to make me go on this long tangent rant to defend myself and i don't really want too... but i'm going too... haha  so here we go.

 

First off there is this video..:

 

 

IN this video he goes over some of the FPS differences in current gen games. The differences other then (primal) are very slim.. and even farcy primal it's still above 84 FPS.

 

So is your monitor 60Hz? That means it will refresh at the rate of 60FPS.. however this isn't techincally the noticable cap. The truth is, up to 80fps is noticeable on a 60hz monitor.   But, They say that anything past 80fps isn't noticible ..  between 60-80fps the difference is the latency on the screen. not how smooth it is.

 

Bottom line if your using a 60hz monitor.. even 80fps is prob the max your going to notice anything... which the 1700 provides easily.

 

with that said.. the 1700 is cheaper.. and with more cores is going to provide a smoother experience when you do your "casual" streaming.  Streaming to twitch actually has a significant toll on the processor.  So having ryzen for that will not only make your gaming smoother but streaming easier on the system.

 

and the last thing i have is that "for now" games don't make use of multi core. (this is true)  but who's to say in 1-2 years from now games won't be coming out to take a advantage of this..  You'll be ahead of the game and ready for this if you go ryzen.

 

IMHO - ryzen is slightly cheaper, better for long term, better for streaming, and provides "almost" identical gaming experience currently... but will be better then i7's in the very near future. i would NOT throw them under the bus in your decision and toss them out.. I'd seriously think about it. They really are a good contender.

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Why windows 7?

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Also, since you said streaming Ryzen might be a better option.

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And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£304.90 @ Alza) will perform much better for streaming.
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho Rev.B 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  (£43.08 @ Amazon UK) order mounts from thermalright if it's not included.
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£142.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£114.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£61.94 @ More Computers) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  (£475.31 @ More Computers) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.60 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£86.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full 32/64-bit 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£26.75 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1400.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-29 14:25 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£304.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£104.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£100.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£121.39 @ Kustom PCs) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£64.41 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  (£418.80 @ Aria PC) 
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£62.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.09 @ CCL Computers) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£26.75 @ Amazon UK) 
Other: Corsair AM4 Bracket (£4.01)
Total: £1366.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-29 14:38 BST+0100

 

But if you don't want as good a CPU cooler and a better GPU then Herman mcpootis's build is better. £34 left for OS.

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Compooters:

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Desktop:

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CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync)

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CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter?

Laptop (I use it for school):

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Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050

And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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14 minutes ago, MrMcFarts said:

Windows 7 doesn't work with kabylake

Damn... I forgot...

 

Yeah, op is stuck with windows 10 then...

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Home Server:

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CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter?

Laptop (I use it for school):

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Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050

And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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25 minutes ago, Czaja said:

How about oc on that ryzen ? I never seen it xD im stuck to intel

with a good cooler and the newest bios, around 4ghz is the best it can go. it will do far better in streaming but will perform worse in gaming.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

you can get an oc of 3.7 on all cores very easily but if you want to get to the 4.0 to 3.9 ghz range you will need a beefier cooling system like a good nactua cooler or a good AIO

the macho rev.b is actually pretty good, performs only slightly worse than the nh-d15.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermalright/Macho_RevB/6.html

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 minute ago, Czaja said:

I dont do that hard streming just forfun stresming cs and bf1 im still with i7 why that ryzen???

streaming is pretty intensive so a quad core like the i7 7700k wont be able to do it easily while the the ryzen is an 8 core cpu and can do it quite easily. i would imagine that battlefield 1 will be difficult to stream with the 7700k so if you just want to stream cs:go then go ahead but if you want to stream bf1 you may have some difficulties with the 7700k. if you are streaming for fun and it isn't a priority then yeah you can just go for the 7700k 

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ok, you're about to make me go on this long tangent rant to defend myself and i don't really want too... but i'm going too... haha  so here we go.

 

First off there is this video..:

 

 

IN this video he goes over some of the FPS differences in current gen games. The differences other then (primal) are very slim.. and even farcy primal it's still above 84 FPS.

 

So is your monitor 60Hz? That means it will refresh at the rate of 60FPS.. however this isn't techincally the noticable cap. The truth is, up to 80fps is noticeable on a 60hz monitor.   But, They say that anything past 80fps isn't noticible ..  between 60-80fps the difference is the latency on the screen. not how smooth it is.

 

Bottom line if your using a 60hz monitor.. even 80fps is prob the max your going to notice anything... which the 1700 provides easily.

 

with that said.. the 1700 is cheaper.. and with more cores is going to provide a smoother experience when you do your "casual" streaming.  Streaming to twitch actually has a significant toll on the processor.  So having ryzen for that will not only make your gaming smoother but streaming easier on the system.

 

and the last thing i have is that "for now" games don't make use of multi core. (this is true)  but who's to say in 1-2 years from now games won't be coming out to take a advantage of this..  You'll be ahead of the game and ready for this if you go ryzen.

 

IMHO - ryzen is slightly cheaper, better for long term, better for streaming, and provides "almost" identical gaming experience currently... but will be better then i7's in the very near future. i would NOT throw them under the bus in your decision and toss them out.. I'd seriously think about it. They really are a good contender.

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Oh man .... thats the best answer i could read rly . I just need to make it working with the rest part and to the cheapest and best probided computer with ryzen then . Im to fresh in amd tehnology and mb's so i have to do some research then . Thanks a lot for that mate i appreciate that

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2 minutes ago, Czaja said:

Oh man .... thats the best answer i could read rly . I just need to make it working with the rest part and to the cheapest and best probided computer with ryzen then . Im to fresh in amd tehnology and mb's so i have to do some research then . Thanks a lot for that mate i appreciate that

anytime.  Just trying to save you the money where you don't need to spend the extra money if your not going to notice the difference.. and provide you with longer life of the machine for the future.  I hope it helped.

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