Intel Optane?

[Watashi]

So considering that this is a non-volatile memory, and also fits in an m.2 I assume that it would have faster read/write speeds than my SATA interface SSD? Also, would operating systems be stored directly onto the optane? 

[Enderman]

You can't decide what goes on it, it just caches whatever it wants.

Stick with your SSD until they make optane SSDs that you can use as a normal drive.

[Watashi]

So it just randomly caches memory? 

[TheKDub]

1 minute ago, Doomerson said:

So it just randomly caches memory? 

Pretty much.

[Watashi]

4 hours ago, TheKDub said:

Pretty much.

I can imagine it has some sort of technology that priorities certain programs over others? I don't know but that's just a guess 

[Enderman]

Just now, Doomerson said:

I can imagine it has some sort of technology that priorities certain programs over others? I don't know but that's just a guess 

The ones you use most. But 32GB isn't much, and it's way more convenient to have everything sped up with a regular SSD than just a few things that you use often.

[Electronics Wizardy]

9 minutes ago, Doomerson said:

So it just randomly caches memory? 

not ram, but hdd, its just a glorifed hdd cache like the smart responce from 5 years ago. Just buy a hdd and don't worry about a cache.

[Vasanth]

My rig has

mobo: Asus h110m d series

And Seagate Barracuda 2TB SATA

If I use something like the Intel optane will my rig be fast and can you suggest something for my rig

[Watashi]

4 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

not ram, but hdd, its just a glorifed hdd cache like the smart responce from 5 years ago. Just buy a hdd and don't worry about a cache.

so as mentioned within the video, it just a good way too make a PC with only HDD storage have some faster boot times?

[Watashi]

4 hours ago, Vasanth said:

My rig has

mobo: Asus h110m d series

And Seagate Barracuda 2TB SATA

If I use something like the Intel optane will my rig be fast and can you suggest something for my rig

I'm pretty sure Optane only works with the z270 chipset

[zMeul]

7 minutes ago, Enderman said:

The ones you use most. But 32GB isn't much,

32GB is enough to fit an entire Windows install

[TechGeekk]

does this perform like hybrid storage?

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, Vasanth said:

My rig has

mobo: Asus h110m d series

And Seagate Barracuda 2TB SATA

If I use something like the Intel optane will my rig be fast and can you suggest something for my rig

no, you cannot use Optane on that

Optane requires:

• 200 series mobo
• Kaby Lake CPU

[zMeul]

Just now, TechGeekk said:

does this perform like hybrid storage?

yes, sort of like SSHDs

[TechGeekk]

Ah, I wonder if new builds should use SSHDs or go with HDD and optane

[Vasanth]

2 minutes ago, Doomerson said:

I'm pretty sure Optane only works with the z270 chipset

Then can u suggest something like that for my rig

[dexT]

What about if you used it to cache a 960 drive or similar? Better performance in some areas?

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, zMeul said:

32GB is enough to fit an entire Windows install

It's already proven that the amount of time it takes windows to boot is not bottlenecked by storage speed past sata.

A regular sata SSD takes the same amount of time.

If you buy nvme or optane just for faster boot then you're wasting money. It is not faster.

[TrigrH]

Just now, TechGeekk said:

Ah, I wonder if new builds should use SSHDs or go with HDD and optane

SSHDs are too shit and optane is too expensive at those launch prices, SSD + HDD is better.

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

It's already proven that the amount of time it takes windows to boot is not bottlenecked by storage speed past sata.

A regular sata SSD takes the same amount of time.

If you buy nvme or optane just for faster boot then you're wasting money. It is not faster.

few things:

Optane can be used with HDDs and that's the main attraction if you are limited in number of disk drives you can have, laptops for example

NVMe is much much much more expensive, even SATA if you compare to how much big of a HDD can you get for the same money

[Vasanth]

How about 

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

few things:

Optane can be used with HDDs and that's the main attraction if you are limited in number of disk drives you can have, laptops for example

NVMe is much much much more expensive, even SATA if you compare to how much big of a HDD can you get for the same money

Is there any other products like the same which can be used for a 6th gen chipset

 

[zMeul]

Just now, Vasanth said:

How about 

Is there any other products like the same which can be used for a 6th gen chipset

other than buying a SSHD, nope

[Vasanth]

7 minutes ago, TechGeekk said:

Ah, I wonder if new builds should use SSHDs or go with HDD and optane

I think yEs cuz it's cheap than buying an ssd

[Enderman]

15 minutes ago, zMeul said:

few things:

Optane can be used with HDDs and that's the main attraction if you are limited in number of disk drives you can have, laptops for example

NVMe is much much much more expensive, even SATA if you compare to how much big of a HDD can you get for the same money

But the cache is only 32GB, so only 32GB of the things are going to be fast, regardless of the size of the HDD.

[zMeul]

7 minutes ago, Enderman said:

But the cache is only 32GB, so only 32GB of the things are going to be fast, regardless of the size of the HDD.

depends on how good the algorithm is

I'd wait for the real world workloads to pass judgement

 

the bigger question is if this works independent of the OS, like in Linux