Your Turn Microsoft

[Agons]

you are right, however most console gamers don't want to build their system or install the OS let alone learn how to, so the crux of the issue is still; you pay more to make the equivalent with a pc then you also have to spend time configuring it all to work at it's best.  consoles are plug and play, hell you don't even need to setup the graphics options as they come pre-configured to be the best they can.

This is also true, but the best part is every year building an configuring OS's such as Linux get more and more non-tech friendly. This has to be the last generation of true console, by the time ps5 and Xbox2 come out, building a PC and installing a gaming distro of linux will be child's play.

[mr moose]

This is also true, but the best part is every year building an configuring OS's such as Linux get more and more non-tech friendly. This has to be the last generation of true console, by the time ps5 and Xbox2 come out, building a PC and installing a gaming distro of linux will be child's play.

very true, though I'm not a betting man, if I was I would put a few pennies on their still being a pre-configured option on the market in 5 years.

[Agons]

very true, though I'm not a betting man, if I was I would put a few pennies on their still being a pre-configured option on the market in 5 years.

A penny wager it is then! I got mine on 10 year old's building there own gaming rigs by the time next gen comes out.

[Torg73]

if they are equal why can't the Xbone manage 1080p? the 650 Ti boost was designed by Nvidia to be a budget 1080p GPU and it can deliver 1080p in games.

The problem for both the Xbox one and PS4 games not running in full 1080p is not hardware problems that people will happy believe but its the whole network infrastructure, both Microsoft and Sony designed the next gen consoles to work with DRM but the out cry for the Microsoft having a DRM system on the xbox one made both companies change their mind's, Sony just announced after the fact that the PS4 will not have DRM system just make Microsoft the bad guy.

 

Both next gen consoles will have day one patches to remove the DRM.

[SirReallySam]

XBone has a blu-ray drive... Just saying

[Wtalk2]

OS = SteamOS = FREE!

[Wtalk2]

Also if the APU's are as strong as a 7790 or a 7850 or so, why won't they be able to run many of the next gen games at 1080P? On low settings my totally unoptimized system will be able to play pretty much every game at 1080P while a highly optimised console isn't.

[Matsy]

windows 7 is free....

 

Just sayin

[Wtalk2]

windows 7 is free....

 

Just sayin

LOL Matsy

[WanderingFool]

The problem for both the Xbox one and PS4 games not running in full 1080p is not hardware problems that people will happy believe but its the whole network infrastructure, both Microsoft and Sony designed the next gen consoles to work with DRM but the out cry for the Microsoft having a DRM system on the xbox one made both companies change their mind's, Sony just announced after the fact that the PS4 will not have DRM system just make Microsoft the bad guy.

 

Both next gen consoles will have day one patches to remove the DRM.

 

Sorry, but if there is an actual article that says that was Sony's plan then please post it.  From everything I have seen, there are no justifications behind the whole "DRM" on Sony thing.  Even the day one patch for Sony isn't to enable gameplay (from what I have seen it can still play games), but rather just to enable blu-ray and dvd support.  The more likely cause is that most developers haven't gotten their hands on PS4's and Xbox one (although your point is still valid for XBox One).  There are many optimizations you can do, but imagine developing a Windows game but only using a virtual machine on Mac....it will be hard to optimize.

 

 

For the TC, many people have said the forgotten components, but I will add Blu-ray software.  You can buy a cheap $50 blu-ray drive, but the software itself (even the cheapest of ones) will likely cost $30.  Also from what I have heard Kinect 2.0 actually contains a lot of more expensive hardware (I could be wrong as it is just rumors, but given it uses time of flight technology I wouldn't be surprised).

[Zyphera]

It seems you forgot windows

Steam on Linux

[Zyphera]

Now you only need to add 2 controllers, a kinect, an O.S and a bluray player. Plus a 12mth warranty that says: "this will all work together and play every game you buy"  and your set.

On PC you never need a optical drive. Just downland over Steam, Origin or just a standalone installer. SteamOS or Staem on Linux is your OS (no cost). A keyboard and mouse if you don't have you can get for about 25 USD.

[TheArcheaon]

 

So I was bored tonight and I decided to see what I could build for the same price as a XBone...

 

Xbox One Equivalent System Specs:

 

CPU:  AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Motherboard:  Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Memory:  Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($35.23 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.57 @ Amazon Canada) 

Video Card:  Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ Memory Express) 

Case:  Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Power Supply:  Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Canada Computers) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer  ($17.00 @ Vuugo) 

PRICE: $496.75

 

Xbox One Price: $499.99

 

Your move Microsoft...

 

 

 

Thanks to: Ca.PCParkPicker.com

 

 

I love it how people think consoles are chaper than gaming pc's. I mean even if you bought windows 7 or 8 for $90 it'd still be better than owning a console >_<

 

 

On PC you never need a optical drive. Just downland over Steam, Origin or just a standalone installer. SteamOS or Staem on Linux is your OS (no cost). A keyboard and mouse if you don't have you can get for about 25 USD.

 

Agreed, but you also have to think. People like me (Who prefer owning physical discs) usually don't like digital downloads (In less something is on sale)

[mr moose]

On PC you never need a optical drive. Just downland over Steam, Origin or just a standalone installer. SteamOS or Staem on Linux is your OS (no cost). A keyboard and mouse if you don't have you can get for about 25 USD.

whether we think one is necessary or not is just a personal opinion, the point is the xbox has one and we can't watch bluray movies without one,  If the OP wants to match the xbox then it needs to come with all of the components an xbox does, And I won't even talk about the labor time to assemble and OS/driver tweaking to get it working just right. 

[Sneaky]

if they are equal why can't the Xbone manage 1080p? the 650 Ti boost was designed by Nvidia to be a budget 1080p GPU and it can deliver 1080p in games.

 

It can manage 1080p, Forza 5 will be running at 60FPS, 1080p.

[mr moose]

I love it how people think consoles are chaper than gaming pc's. I mean even if you bought windows 7 or 8 for $90 it'd still be better than owning a console >_<

 

they are,  what your saying is you personally prefer windows and a more powerful pc, but that does not change the fact that consoles are cheaper and simpler to operate thus making them appealing to a certain type of gamer.

[upliftsleet1974]

I would go for a 7850 on sale over a 650 ti boost!

[ultimatemythbuster]

It seems you forgot windows

Who ever said he was going to install Windows?  Or maybe he already has a copy or three.

[Rhotis]

Everyone complaining that you cannot truly get the price for a PC down to the xbone you are kind of sort of correct.  

 

What you guys are forgetting is the gaming rig does not just replace the xbone or ps4.  It also is a replacement for their generic PC that they got from Dell or HP and spent 400 to 800 USD on.  Average that out to 600 and you now have double the money to spend to replace the xbone but also replace their generic PC.  

 

So in the spirit of replacing both the xbone and their generic PC that they are going to have you now have 1200USD.  Lets see what we can do with that

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8150 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard:  Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($119.00 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card:  Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Optical Drive:  Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($58.99 @ NCIX US) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.99 @ NCIX US) 

Other: Game Controller ($14.99)

Total: $1152.91

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 17:31 EST-0500)

 

 

 

There you go,  with windows,  with blur ray and with controller.  

[xox]

But you don't have the same multiplayer experience.

 

If you can do split screen on a PC, I will buy whatever that game is in a heartbeat.

[Rhotis]

But you don't have the same multiplayer experience.

 

If you can do split screen on a PC, I will buy whatever that game is in a heartbeat.

 

Who the hell split screens anymore?  You have this invention called the internet where you can do multiplayer without losing screen real estate now.  

[miyabwah]

You can't Dev on a Xbone, now can you? That could earn you millions more back.

[Hans Christian | Teri]

Someday people will realise that you can't compare consoles to PCs solely by their hardware. That day will be a good day.

[cjeffcoatjr]

take away windows, and it will be $500 without rebates. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard:  Biostar A55MD2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.94 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card:  Asus GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card  ($119.20 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Microcenter) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Microcenter) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.00 @ Newegg) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($84.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $514.07

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 18:09 EST-0500)

[xox]

Who the hell split screens anymore?  You have this invention called the internet where you can do multiplayer without losing screen real estate now.  

I like having friends round.