How can I REDUCE the cost from 1500 to 1000 without changing the 1070 ,and without massivly affecting the performance.

[TheOnlyLamb]

Please tell me how to do it, as it says in the title. And feel free to tell me if this whole set is just trash and i should just change to another one.

Intel Core i7-7700K
ASUS Z270E
Corsair LPX 16GB DDR4-3200
Crucial 525GB M.2 SSD 
Seagate 2TB BarraCuda
ASUS ROG Strix GTX 1070 
EVGA 850 B2 
Corsair H80i V2
Corsair Spec-01 Case 

 

[The Sloth]

-cheaper mobo

- cheaper 1070

- air cooling get a darkrock pro 3 or dh15

- cheaper case 

- smaller ssd

- 1tb hdd 

- lower speed ram 

[TheOnlyLamb]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

-cheaper mobo

- cheaper 1070

- air cooling get a darkrock pro 3 or dh15

- cheaper case 

- smaller ssd

- 1tb hdd 

- lower speed ram 

Cheaper 1070? like EVGA SC instead? And how bad will the specs your saying affect the performance. Any examples? <3

[The Sloth]

Just now, TheOnlyLamb said:

Cheaper 1070? like EVGA SC instead? And how bad will the specs your saying affect the performance. Any examples? <3

not by much, you can overclock it if you need more. 

[TheOnlyLamb]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

not by much, you can overclock it if you need more. 

alright thaanks.

[Droidbot]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($37.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($47.92 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($379.99 @ Jet) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $993.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-17 19:14 EDT-0400

 

Not bad value actually.

[TheOnlyLamb]

1 minute ago, Droidbot said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($37.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($47.92 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($379.99 @ Jet) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $993.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-17 19:14 EDT-0400

 

Not bad value actually.

thanks  <3 

[The Sloth]

this will give you much better performance and bit over 1k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvxPGf

[TheOnlyLamb]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

this will give you much better performance and bit over 1k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvxPGf

alright, You too<3. Im just a noob that knows nothing about pc. What would i do without you NERDS :^)

[mariushm]

Change the cpu-mb combo to a Ryzen 7

Your mb is $190 and your i7-7700k is 350$ .. change to a 95$ mb and a 330$ cpu  and you already saved 125$

Change the SSD to a smaller one, like a 240GB SSD (see the post above mine), and you're probably saving about 40-50$

No need for a 850w power supply, a good 650w one will do just fine and it would probably save you about 15-20$

 

You'd be fine with the stock cpu cooler so there goes another 90$ ... you're saving now about  300$

 

[TheOnlyLamb]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Change the cpu-mb combo to a Ryzen 7

Your mb is $190 and your i7-7700k is 350$ .. change to a 95$ mb and a 330$ cpu  and you already saved 125$

Change the SSD to a smaller one, like a 240GB SSD (see the post above mine), and you're probably saving about 40-50$

No need for a 850w power supply, a good 650w one will do just fine and it would probably save you about 15-20$

 

You'd be fine with the stock cpu cooler so there goes another 90$ ... you're saving now about  300$

 

Ryzen 7 is shit for gaming am I right?

[Dabasepc]

better gaming performance with i5 and GTX 1080. instead of i7 and gtx 1070.

 

If you can try get a 1080.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Change the cpu-mb combo to a Ryzen 7

Nope, just nope.

7 minutes ago, TheOnlyLamb said:

What would i do without you NERDS :^)

Did you just assume my role?

[TheOnlyLamb]

1 minute ago, Factory OC said:

 

Did you just assume my role?

:^)

[mariushm]

Ryzen 7 is shit for gaming am I right?

 

 

No, single threaded performance is very good, pretty much the same as Intel processors.

The 7700 will be slightly faster in some games simply because it runs at much higher frequency (4.2 ghz) compared to Ryzen 7 1700 which runs at 3.0 Ghz but boosts up to 3.7 Ghz.

So if a game sucks and uses only 2-4 threads, it may have a slightly higher fps on 7700 because of the 4.2 Ghz frequency but with most games using more threads these days, they'll take advantage of the 8 real cores (16 cores with hyperthreading).

 

Ryzen 7 1700x at 400$ is 3.4 Ghz boosting to 3.8 Ghz and most can be overclocked reliably to 3.8-3.9 Ghz on all cores all the time... i simply recommended the plain 1700 because it's cheaper and you still get lots of performance.

 

You can see here how Ryzen 7 processors compare to other processors : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-vs-intel-kaby-lake-gaming,4977-3.html

 

[The Sloth]

9 minutes ago, Dabasepc said:

better gaming performance with i5 and GTX 1080. instead of i7 and gtx 1070.

 

If you can try get a 1080.

 

bottleneck, OP setup with an i7 6700k and a 1070 is a better option. 

[TheOnlyLamb]

2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

bottleneck, OP setup with an i7 6700k and a 1070 is a better option. 

Mr.Nerd whats a bottleneck and OP setup?

[The Sloth]

5 minutes ago, TheOnlyLamb said:

Mr.Nerd whats a bottleneck and OP setup?

bottleneck would be the i5( it only has 4cores/threads while an i7 has 4 cores/ 8 threads) in his setup, OP meanes"original poster" so in this case you. 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, mariushm said:

No, single threaded performance is very good, pretty much the same as Intel processors.

The 7700 will be slightly faster in some games simply because it runs at much higher frequency (4.2 ghz) compared to Ryzen 7 1700 which runs at 3.0 Ghz but boosts up to 3.7 Ghz.

So if a game sucks and uses only 2-4 threads, it may have a slightly higher fps on 7700 because of the 4.2 Ghz frequency but with most games using more threads these days, they'll take advantage of the 8 real cores (16 cores with hyperthreading).

 

Ryzen 7 1700x at 400$ is 3.4 Ghz boosting to 3.8 Ghz and most can be overclocked reliably to 3.8-3.9 Ghz on all cores all the time... i simply recommended the plain 1700 because it's cheaper and you still get lots of performance.

 

You can see here how Ryzen 7 processors compare to other processors : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-vs-intel-kaby-lake-gaming,4977-3.html

 

Just nope. Ryzen 7 was really not supposed to be for gaming.

If you really insist on Ryzen, I would make the OP wait for the R5, but for now, take in a little BLUE.

[Daniel Z.]

Just now, TheOnlyLamb said:

Mr.Nerd whats a bottleneck and OP setup?

A bottleneck is when one part is holding back the other. So if a CPU is at 100% while a GPU is at 70% that is an example of a bottleneck. OP is you. It stands for Original Poster and he is talking about your idea of an i7 and a 1070. I would prefer Ryzen 7 and a 1070 because I do more than just game. And if games are more multithreaded, Ryzen could see a massive performance leap. I think that IPC is about the same for Kaby Lake and Ryzen 7. Also, games and other tasks have been Intel optimized since AMD decided to stop producing performance CPUs. Wait for a Ryzen optimized title until you make a decision because right now it is like 4 Ryzen 7 cores actually working at 3.x GHZ and 4 i7 7700k cores working at over 4 GHZ at similar IPC. Ryzen is losing in games because of coding and developers not making games multithreaded.

[Daniel Z.]

2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

bottleneck would be the i5( it only has 4cores/threads while an i7 has 4 cores/ 8 threads) in his setup, OP meanes"original poster" so in this case you. 

It probably won't bottleneck that bad, it is mainly just the clock difference. 7600k at same speeds as a 7700k should perform similarly in games.

[Daniel Z.]

3 minutes ago, Factory OC said:

Just nope. Ryzen 7 was really not supposed to be for gaming.

If you really insist on Ryzen, I would make the OP wait for the R5, but for now, take in a little BLUE.

Ryzen may be the last chance for AMD to become real competition to Intel. 

[TheOnlyLamb]

Okay thanks guys. So 6700k should be the best option right?

[Daniel Z.]

4 minutes ago, Factory OC said:

Just nope. Ryzen 7 was really not supposed to be for gaming.

If you really insist on Ryzen, I would make the OP wait for the R5, but for now, take in a little BLUE.

Ryzen 7 is for gamers who also edit, render, or use other multithreaded tasks. 

[Guest]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

Ryzen may be the last chance for AMD to become real competition to Intel. 

May? it already is their last chance. I really hope the best for the R5