Work PC (none gaming)

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

 

No, the i3 is more powerful. Granted on the BIOS upgrade potential, but the working BIOS shipped late last year so it shouldn't be a problem. I have yet to encounter a situation in which one needed to upgrade memory on an office system during its useful life.

 

I3 are pretty powerful cpu. They have hyperthreading which makes them very good at multitasking. In fact they are better performers than cpu in most laptops, including the latest generation of laptop cpu.

 

 

The i3 is clocked irrelevantly higher, has better integrated graphics (HD610 is plenty for basic use on triple monitors) and has AVX support (also pretty unimportant in this use case -- or power level of an i3).  

 

i3's (and the G4560 alike) are very capable CPUs. i3's perform better than most laptop CPUs only because most laptops use hyper threaded dual cores. Any laptop with a quad core/hyper threaded quad core will smoke a desktop i3 (assuming the application isn't solely dependent on single threaded performance, in which case the desktop i3 will win due to higher clockspeeds).

[brob]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

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i3's (and the G4560 alike) are very capable CPUs. i3's perform better than most laptop CPUs only because most laptops use hyper threaded dual cores. Any laptop with a quad core/hyper threaded quad core will smoke a desktop i3 (assuming the application isn't solely dependent on single threaded performance, in which case the desktop i3 will win due to higher clockspeeds).

True enough. Have you found a current 4 core laptop that cost less than $1,500? I brought up the laptop argument because they were mentioned in the OP as one possible upgrade route.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, brob said:

True enough. Have you found a current 4 core laptop that cost less than $1,500? I brought up the laptop argument because they were mentioned in the OP as one possible upgrade route.

You can find quad core laptops (in the US) from Dell starting at around $800~. I agree, desktops are a much better value than laptops, I never disagreed with that. 

[Drake10114]

10 minutes ago, brob said:

True enough. Have you found a current 4 core laptop that cost less than $1,500? I brought up the laptop argument because they were mentioned in the OP as one possible upgrade route.

Were an option, but it's looking like building a pc would be cheaper/better bang for my buck compared to getting a laptop. Also, upgradeability and ease to fix.

Also, idk if anyone $600 laptops have ssd's now, or if they are still running HDD's.

[Drake10114]

10 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

You can find quad core laptops (in the US) from Dell starting at around $800~. I agree, desktops are a much better value than laptops, I never disagreed with that. 

We do have a deal through Dell I'm pretty sure, so that could be an option. But again, if a pc I can build for less, smokes a laptop, due to having desktop processors, and aforementioned perks, what's the point in a laptop? I rarely will be taking work home, and if I do, I hope my current work laptop is still kicking, so I can use that for travel/home.

[brob]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

We do have a deal through Dell I'm pretty sure, so that could be an option. But again, if a pc I can build for less, smokes a laptop, due to having desktop processors, and aforementioned perks, what's the point in a laptop? I rarely will be taking work home, and if I do, I hope my current work laptop is still kicking, so I can use that for travel/home.

For work from home, a subscription to a remote login service is better value without the risk of data being lost or stolen.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

We do have a deal through Dell I'm pretty sure, so that could be an option. But again, if a pc I can build for less, smokes a laptop, due to having desktop processors, and aforementioned perks, what's the point in a laptop? I rarely will be taking work home, and if I do, I hope my current work laptop is still kicking, so I can use that for travel/home.

There isn't any. I agree that a desktop is a better option.

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, brob said:

For work from home, a subscription to a remote login service is better value without the risk of data being lost or stolen.

We have that, but it's easier to use a work pc that can more easily connect to the servers/ would sync when I return, compared to using my home pc.

[brob]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

We have that, but it's easier to use a work pc that can more easily connect to the servers/ would sync when I return, compared to using my home pc.

Whatever floats your boat. Personally I find logging into my work machine from home simpler. And no need to sync later.

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, brob said:

Whatever floats your boat. Personally I find logging into my work machine from home simpler. And no need to sync later.

True, but for travelling it'll be the same concept though, since I do travel the odd time for work.

[NumLock21]

For work, better to get prebuilt for their warranty and support. I was just checking out some Dell server / workstations not too long ago cause a client of mine wants a server build and Dell has like, depending on the model you get, some comes with 3 year warranty with remote and onsite service. Then is also extra cost for more premium support or upgrade to 5 years.

Now for custom built, get all of your parts from a single source, that way if anything, shipping back/forth and keeping track of where you got your parts will be a lot easier.

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

For work, better to get prebuilt for their warranty and support. I was just checking out some Dell server / workstations not too long ago cause a client of mine wants a server build and Dell has like, depending on the model you get, some comes with 3 year warranty with remote and onsite service. Then is also extra cost for more premium support or upgrade to 5 years.

Now for custom built, get all of your parts from a single source, that way if anything, shipping back/forth and keeping track of where you got your parts will be a lot easier.

Was wondering that for the warranty aspect, but where does Intel Nuc's fall in, because ik that was an option too.

We do have IT Support, so depending on the problem, it might be an easy fix to do. And I intend to buy from a single site as best as I can, to save on shipping and possibly lost orders.

[Drake10114]

14 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

For work, better to get prebuilt for their warranty and support. I was just checking out some Dell server / workstations not too long ago cause a client of mine wants a server build and Dell has like, depending on the model you get, some comes with 3 year warranty with remote and onsite service. Then is also extra cost for more premium support or upgrade to 5 years.

Now for custom built, get all of your parts from a single source, that way if anything, shipping back/forth and keeping track of where you got your parts will be a lot easier.

Also an option is this just get's shot down by my boss, and I end up w/ something he picks out, but I figure'd I should have an idea of something, for when the time comes and be prepared, rather than not have any idea.

[NumLock21]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

Was wondering that for the warranty aspect, but where does Intel Nuc's fall in, because ik that was an option too.

We do have IT Support, so depending on the problem, it might be an easy fix to do. And I intend to buy from a single site as best as I can, to save on shipping and possibly lost orders.

Intel branded NUC will be warranty by Intel. Others will be warranty from which ever brand you got it from. Having IT support is a plus, but having IT support from the company you got your builds from, where they have unlimited resource is even better.

[Drake10114]

10 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Intel branded NUC will be warranty by Intel. Others will be warranty from which ever brand you got it from. Having IT support is a plus, but having IT support from the company you got your builds from, where they have unlimited resource is even better.

Fair enough, so even barebones mini-pc's have some form of warranty, good to know.

[brob]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

Fair enough, so even barebones mini-pc's have some form of warranty, good to know.

In my experience warranties are pretty meaningless when dealing with a work computer. When a part fails, even if it is under warranty, the time required to replace the unit generally exceeds the acceptable down time.

 

I have made warranty claims, but generally only after running out to the nearest merchant to buy a replacement part.