Work PC (none gaming)

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Just now, Drake10114 said:

So for warranty wise, it might be better to use an Asus mobo, or source Asus parts over others if I can?

motherboards are quite sturdy, but for few dollars more Asus is really nice

[Drake10114]

13 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

motherboards are quite sturdy, but for few dollars more Asus is really nice

Fair enough,

Any Asus B250 boards you'd recommend?

Am I right in assuming that quad cores are better at handling multiple programs being open (excel, quickbooks, tac program, chrome, etc.) better than a dual core w/ HT can?

Also 100th LTT  Post

 

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, Drake10114 said:

Fair enough,

Any Asus B250 boards you'd recommend?

 

Am I right in assuming that quad cores are better at handling multiple programs being open (excel, quickbooks, tac program, chrome, etc.) better than a dual core w/ HT can?

Also 100th LTT  Post

 

MSI and Gigabyte also have three year warranties. 

 

Yes, quad cores are better, but tbh an i3 (/G4560) is also usually more than enough. 

[Drake10114]

18 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

MSI and Gigabyte also have three year warranties. 

 

Yes, quad cores are better, but tbh an i3 (/G4560) is also usually more than enough. 

So basically a desktop cpu will be more than capable for the jobs i need.

I'll look, it might be worth it for an extra $20 to get the Gigabyte Mobo over the Asrock, due to a better warranty.

[Drake10114]

So final recommendations for the build?

[PCPartPicker part list](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gph6LD) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gph6LD/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3pWrxr/intel-core-i5-7600-35ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57600) | $285.81 @ Vuugo 
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $97.76 @ shopRBC 
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sMbkcf/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16) | $66.99 @ Newegg Canada 
**Storage** | [Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam) | $119.98 @ DirectCanada 
**Case** | [Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nykwrH/rosewill-case-fbm05) | $19.99 @ Newegg Canada 
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MfvZxr/evga-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-b1-0450-k1) | $44.99 @ DirectCanada 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **$635.52**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-03-11 13:18 EST-0500 |

 

Basically took @djdwosk97's build, and added a kabylake cpu, and bumped the mobo to a b250 by Gigabyte.

[79wjd]

24 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

So final recommendations for the build?

[PCPartPicker part list](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gph6LD) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gph6LD/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3pWrxr/intel-core-i5-7600-35ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57600) | $285.81 @ Vuugo 
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $97.76 @ shopRBC 
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sMbkcf/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16) | $66.99 @ Newegg Canada 
**Storage** | [Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam) | $119.98 @ DirectCanada 
**Case** | [Rosewill FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nykwrH/rosewill-case-fbm05) | $19.99 @ Newegg Canada 
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MfvZxr/evga-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-b1-0450-k1) | $44.99 @ DirectCanada 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **$635.52**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-03-11 13:18 EST-0500 |

 

Basically took @djdwosk97's build, and added a kabylake cpu, and bumped the mobo to a b250 by Gigabyte.

I'd save the money and get a 7500 instead. 

[Drake10114]

35 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I'd save the money and get a 7500 instead. 

Won't run into any troubles by using skylake on the b250 compared to a kabylake? Don't have a spare cpu to do updating bios or anything of the sort.

Edit: Nvm, thought you meant a i5-6500 cpu.

What's the difference between the 7500 and 7600 though? Never actually realized there was 2 kabylake locked i5's.

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, Drake10114 said:

Won't run into any troubles by using skylake on the b250 compared to a kabylake? Don't have a spare cpu to do updating bios or anything of the sort.

A 7500 is still Kaby Lake. 

 

But, Skylake works perfectly fine on any 200 series board without the need for a bios update. It's Kaby Lake CPUs on a 100 series board that potentially require a bios update. 

[Drake10114]

11 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

A 7500 is still Kaby Lake. 

 

But, Skylake works perfectly fine on any 200 series board without the need for a bios update. It's Kaby Lake CPUs on a 100 series board that potentially require a bios update. 

Ahh okay, any major differences between the 7500 and 7600? $30 price difference, so I imagine there is something.

edit: Looks like the only difference, is the 7600 has a slightly faster chip, and has a slightly faster IGPU?

[79wjd]

7 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

edit: Looks like the only difference, is the 7600 has a slightly faster chip, and has a slightly faster IGPU?

That's basically it, but it's such an irrelevant difference. 

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

That's basically it, but it's such an irrelevant difference. 

Which shouldn't really impact me for what I'm using it for anyways. Thanks, managed to get it around the $600 mark now.

[Drake10114]

10 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

That's basically it, but it's such an irrelevant difference. 

Out of curiousity any tablets that would be able to compete with this build, and be around the price point? Only 1 I can think of, that might, is a Surface, which is ~$1000.

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

Out of curiousity any tablets that would be able to compete with this build, and be around the price point? Only 1 I can think of, that might, is a Surface, which is ~$1000.

not really, also, tablets aren't really what you want for productivity work. 

[Drake10114]

12 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

not really, also, tablets aren't really what you want for productivity work. 

Hmm.. wierd.. my boss runs his pc off a docked surface I think. Ik it's a docked tablet. But I like the idea of easy upgradeability, and something that is the best bang for you buck, since you don't have to pay for someone to assemble it. and I don't mind assembling it at home and bringing it to work, or spending a lunch hour throwing it together.

All locked cpu's come w/ stock coolers right? It's not like unlocked cpu's that rarely come w/ stock coolers?

[Drake10114]

28 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

not really, also, tablets aren't really what you want for productivity work. 

May end up switching to a Fractal Design Core 1100 case, $25 more, but looks asthetically better and has a closed bottom and sides, which will help since it'll be under my desk. Any knowledge of this case?

[brob]

An i3 offers more than enough power for most office applications.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($69.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($66.50 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($116.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($53.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $506.93
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-11 14:52 EST-0500

[79wjd]

16 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

Hmm.. wierd.. my boss runs his pc off a docked surface I think. Ik it's a docked tablet. But I like the idea of easy upgradeability, and something that is the best bang for you buck, since you don't have to pay for someone to assemble it. and I don't mind assembling it at home and bringing it to work, or spending a lunch hour throwing it together.

All locked cpu's come w/ stock coolers right? It's not like unlocked cpu's that rarely come w/ stock coolers?

Yeah, it comes with a stock cooler. 

1 minute ago, Drake10114 said:

May end up switching to a Fractal Design Core 1100 case, $25 more, but looks asthetically better and has a closed bottom and sides, which will help since it'll be under my desk. Any knowledge of this case?

The core 1100 is fine. 

Just now, brob said:

An i3 offers more than enough power for most office applications.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($69.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($66.50 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($116.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($53.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Total: $456.94
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-11 14:50 EST-0500

May as well get a G4560 instead and save another $70. With an H110 board and KL you risk needing to do a bios update. You're better off getting a single 8gb stick so you can add more in the future. 

[Drake10114]

11 minutes ago, brob said:

An i3 offers more than enough power for most office applications.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($149.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($69.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($66.50 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($116.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($53.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Total: $456.94
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-11 14:50 EST-0500

You'd actually be surprised at some programs, for instance our book-keeping program, looks not intensive, but due to a ton of background processes, it basically can be a pain to run.

Also, when it comes to larger files, having that extra oomph would come in handy, or so I think.

[Drake10114]

18 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Yeah, it comes with a stock cooler. 

The core 1100 is fine. 

May as well get a G4560 instead and save another $70. With an H110 board and KL you risk needing to do a bios update. You're better off getting a single 8gb stick so you can add more in the future. 

Looks like the PSU is exhausting on the mobo, will that cause any issues when it comes to heat. (Using the Fractal design case, appears no exhausting in the roof)

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

Looks like the PSU is exhausting on the mobo, will that cause any issues when it comes to heat. (Using the Fractal design case, appears no exhausting in the roof)

no (also, it's intaking air off the mobo and exhausting out the back of the case).

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

no (also, it's intaking air off the mobo and exhausting out the back of the case).

Ahh thanks, so at most it could intake the hot air from the cpu cooler?

[79wjd]

Just now, Drake10114 said:

Ahh thanks, so at most it could intake the hot air from the cpu cooler?

yeah.

[brob]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

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May as well get a G4560 instead and save another $70. With an H110 board and KL you risk needing to do a bios update. You're better off getting a single 8gb stick so you can add more in the future. 

 

No, the i3 is more powerful. Granted on the BIOS upgrade potential, but the working BIOS shipped late last year so it shouldn't be a problem. I have yet to encounter a situation in which one needed to upgrade memory on an office system during its useful life.

 

Just now, Drake10114 said:

You'd actually be surprised at some programs, for instance our book-keeping program, looks not intensive, but due to a ton of background processes, it basically can be a pain to run.

Also, when it comes to larger files, having that extra oomph would come in handy, or so I think.

I3 are pretty powerful cpu. They have hyperthreading which makes them very good at multitasking. In fact they are better performers than cpu in most laptops, including the latest generation of laptop cpu.

 

 

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

yeah.

Also found out majority of the spare monitors also have a DVI-D output, so may not need any dongles.. yet

[Drake10114]

9 minutes ago, brob said:

 

No, the i3 is more powerful. Granted on the BIOS upgrade potential, but the working BIOS shipped late last year so it shouldn't be a problem. I have yet to encounter a situation in which one needed to upgrade memory on an office system during its useful life.

 

I3 are pretty powerful cpu. They have hyperthreading which makes them very good at multitasking. In fact they are better performers than cpu in most laptops, including the latest generation of laptop cpu.

 

 

Ic, it is an option if my boss wants it to be cheaper, since it'd drop by $100 or so.