Confused in new build

[yusuf3d]

Hello everyone,

I am Yusuf from India. I currently am using prehistoric build :

Intel Pentium dual core e5700 3 ghz

asus p5g41t-m-lx3 motherboard

6 gb ddr3 1333 ram

nvidia gt 610 2 gb graphics card

14440x990 monitor

to sum it all it runs at max 5fps in current tiles with all low settings.

 

i am thinking about a new build,

intel pentium g4560

gigabyte b250 motherboard

8 gb ddr4 2400 ram

nvidia gtx 1060 3gb or gtx 1050ti 4gb

 

is that of for my resolution?

provide guidance, much appreciated.

Thank you.

[PenPoint]

H110 will be enough for G4560.

[Droidbot]

Just now, PenPoint said:

H110 will be enough for G4560.

Assuming that the BIOS is updated, which is is NOT in most cases. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  (₹5700.00 @ Amazon India) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (₹5989.23 @ Amazon India) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (₹3875.13 @ Amazon India) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (₹3697.00 @ Amazon India) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card  (₹14401.21 @ Amazon India) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (₹1870.27 @ Amazon India) 
Power Supply: FSP Group Hydro X 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (₹7386.00 @ Amazon India) 
Total: ₹42918.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-07 14:24 IST+0530

 

[PenPoint]

Just now, Droidbot said:

Assuming that the BIOS is updated, which is is NOT in most cases. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  (₹5700.00 @ Amazon India) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (₹5989.23 @ Amazon India) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (₹3875.13 @ Amazon India) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (₹3697.00 @ Amazon India) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card  (₹14401.21 @ Amazon India) 
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (₹1870.27 @ Amazon India) 
Power Supply: FSP Group Hydro X 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (₹7386.00 @ Amazon India) 
Total: ₹42918.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-07 14:24 IST+0530

 

Based on my local market status, it is updated in most cases.

[Droidbot]

Just now, PenPoint said:

Based on my local market status, it is updated in most cases.

Not really, the cheaper boards in NA and AU are always old stock that isn't updated, and I'd rather pay the $20 for better quality boards anyway. 

[yusuf3d]

OK Guys, first thanks for the quick response. Now i have the storage and 450 w psu and cabinet. SO wont be upgrading those. I am not comfortable with amd too, so want to be on the green team.  so the products to buy are:

g4560

b250 (just to be on the safe side)

8 gb ddr4

graphics card

 

again please tell me that this rig will be enough to game on my resolution(1440x900), casual gamer here.

[Lolcrokn]

It will be enough for your resolution but I really don't understand why you wouldn't go for amd ? if its simply a better gpu for the money - and as much as you told us, you really are on budget 
 

[yusuf3d]

6 minutes ago, Lolcrokn said:

It will be enough for your resolution but I really don't understand why you wouldn't go for amd ? if its simply a better gpu for the money - and as much as you told us, you really are on budget 
 

I am getting gtx 1060 3gb for 11000 rs here in my local market. That is why i am sticking to it. Is the rs 480 better?

[Lolcrokn]

13 minutes ago, yusuf3d said:

I am getting gtx 1060 3gb for 11000 rs here in my local market. That is why i am sticking to it. Is the rs 480 better?

4 gb is better than 1060 3gb - no, im not saying because of vram - but because of freq. and speed its overall a better video card for the money and performance in general

[Droidbot]

2 minutes ago, Lolcrokn said:

4 gb is better than 1060 3gb - no, im not saying because of vram - but because of freq. and speed its overall a better video card for the money and performance in general

Well, he's not gaming at 1080p so he isn't gonna see the VRAM bottleneck him with the 3GB 1060. However:

4GB 480 == 8GB 480 in everything but VRAM

Whereas 3GB 1060 =/= 6GB 1060. The 3GB is clocked lower and has less CUDA cores, making it around 10% slower than the 480 4GB. 

[yusuf3d]

11 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Well, he's not gaming at 1080p so he isn't gonna see the VRAM bottleneck him with the 3GB 1060. However:

4GB 480 == 8GB 480 in everything but VRAM

Whereas 3GB 1060 =/= 6GB 1060. The 3GB is clocked lower and has less CUDA cores, making it around 10% slower than the 480 4GB. 

so at my resolution 1060 3gb is enough, right? and the price of gtx 1060 i m getting is 11000 rs in india. Is that a good deal. rx 480 is about 15000

[Droidbot]

3 minutes ago, yusuf3d said:

so at my resolution 1060 3gb is enough, right? and the price of gtx 1060 i m getting is 11000 rs in india. Is that a good deal. rx 480 is about 15000

well, it's definitely cheaper, so go for it, I guess. 

[yusuf3d]

Just now, Droidbot said:

well, it's definitely cheaper, so go for it, I guess. 

ok bro, so graphics card is a lock then. How about the g4560 is that ok?

[Droidbot]

Just now, yusuf3d said:

ok bro, so graphics card is a lock then. How about the g4560 is that ok?

it's a very competent gaming CPU, there's a video with someone running a g4560 and a rx470 (slower than 10603g) and getting 60+ fps on Battlefield 1

[yusuf3d]

2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

it's a very competent gaming CPU, there's a video with someone running a g4560 and a rx470 (slower than 10603g) and getting 60+ fps on Battlefield 1

but people say that is a dual core and it sucks to have a dc in 2017.

[Droidbot]

Just now, yusuf3d said:

but people say that is a dual core and it sucks to have a dc in 2017.

That's true

 

But it's not just a dual-core, it's a dual-core with hyper threading

meaning while games may not run on a normal dual, it will run on a dual with hyperthreading. GTAV hates dualcores even with HT. 

[yusuf3d]

3 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

That's true

 

But it's not just a dual-core, it's a dual-core with hyper threading

meaning while games may not run on a normal dual, it will run on a dual with hyperthreading. GTAV hates dualcores even with HT. 

but true quad core like i5 6400 is costing 9000 rs more

[Lolcrokn]

1 hour ago, Droidbot said:

Well, he's not gaming at 1080p so he isn't gonna see the VRAM bottleneck him with the 3GB 1060. However:

4GB 480 == 8GB 480 in everything but VRAM

Whereas 3GB 1060 =/= 6GB 1060. The 3GB is clocked lower and has less CUDA cores, making it around 10% slower than the 480 4GB. 

Isn't that exactly what I said ? 
" 4 gb is better than 1060 3gb - no, im not saying because of vram - but because of freq. and speed its overall a better video card for the money and performance in general "
^^ this means im not saying rx 480 4 gb is better because it has more vram but because its faster in general - now , I didn't know it was such a price difference in India, becuase here in Croatia 4Gb rx 480 is cheaper than 3gb 1060

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, Lolcrokn said:

Isn't that exactly what I said ? 
" 4 gb is better than 1060 3gb - no, im not saying because of vram - but because of freq. and speed its overall a better video card for the money and performance in general "
^^ this means im not saying rx 480 4 gb is better because it has more vram but because its faster in general - now , I didn't know it was such a price difference in India, becuase here in Croatia 4Gb rx 480 is cheaper than 3gb 1060

pretty much, just giving a reason for it besides a very general 'freq and speed' 

 

in AU rx 480 4GB is a little more expensive but for the extra performance I get it everytime. 

[yusuf3d]

On 3/7/2017 at 4:34 PM, Droidbot said:

pretty much, just giving a reason for it besides a very general 'freq and speed' 

 

in AU rx 480 4GB is a little more expensive but for the extra performance I get it everytime. 

but as u said, 1060 3g for my resolution is enough, so going with this rig. Guys its a lock then? any new suggestions?

[yusuf3d]

Hello guys, I went with i5 6400 an asus h110m cs mobo and corsair 8 gb ddr4 ram. Now My options are gtx 1060 3gb or gtx 1060 6gb. Iwant to go with nvidia so please dont start the red vs green war.