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Thinking of buying a macbook

SNow before you get your jimmies rustled. I have all my favorite steam games on Mac OS x. It'd be my first time, and 2009 MacBook are still supported with OS x seirra. 

Unturned, CSGO, L4D2, TF2 And abunch others are in there, this post isn't to get you to switch, its for you to help me weigh the pros and cons.

Here is the one I like the most : https://www.google.com/search?q=2009+macbook&sa=X&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS714US715&hl=en-US&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&tbm=shop&prmd=sivn&srpd=11520686346818636399&prds=num:1,of:1,epd:11520686346818636399&ved=0ahUKEwjym4TXp8LSAhVJeSYKHZPBBbIQlzgIPQ

And I'd rather get that than a T420 , I think. 

BTW I am not a apple fanboy . Most of what they do I hate, ($1700 for a slightly less restricted 2015 MacBook? With a cheap gimic? Fuck that)

What I use my current laptop for, YouTube channel management, Watching youtube videos, email

What I want to use my current laptop for : all above, unturned, Minecraft, and Skype calls that don't crash.

What Macs can do : all stated above. I haven't gotten used to Touch on a laptop/desktop so I won't miss that, deeper integration with my phone, (yes I do like my iPhone 4) Skype calls that might not crash, web browsing, what they don't have that I won't miss : bloatware.

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Just now, LucasDerpYT said:

SNow before you get your jimmies rustled. I have all my favorite steam games on Mac OS x. It'd be my first time, and 2009 MacBook are still supported with OS x seirra. 

Unturned, CSGO, L4D2, TF2 And abunch others are in there, this post isn't to get you to switch, its for you to help me weigh the pros and cons.

Here is the one I like the most : https://www.google.com/search?q=2009+macbook&sa=X&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS714US715&hl=en-US&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&tbm=shop&prmd=sivn&srpd=11520686346818636399&prds=num:1,of:1,epd:11520686346818636399&ved=0ahUKEwjym4TXp8LSAhVJeSYKHZPBBbIQlzgIPQ

And I'd rather get that than a T420 , I think. 

BTW I am not a apple fanboy . Most of what they do I hate, ($1700 for a slightly less restricted 2015 MacBook? With a cheap gimic? Fuck that)

What I use my current laptop for, YouTube channel management, Watching youtube videos, email

What I want to use my current laptop for : all above, unturned, Minecraft, and Skype calls that don't crash.

What Macs can do : all stated above. I haven't gotten used to Touch on a laptop/desktop so I won't miss that, deeper integration with my phone, (yes I do like my iPhone 4) Skype calls that might not crash, web browsing, what they don't have that I won't miss : bloatware.

Also, video editing will be a nice plus on a mac

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And the point of this topic?  If you've already decided to buy one, go ahead.  Don't start clickbait topics because you're insecure with your decisions.

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A C2D Macbook is quite old now. And with Apple dropping support for older products, if its still getting updates, it might get dropped pretty soon. 

Depending on your budget, you can get a newer MBP with an i5 for a little more, around £400 used ~ $450.

Would last a lot longer and perform better as well. It would also help with video editing.

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I'm afraid the link you provided just points to a generic Google search for '2009 macbook', so I don't know which model you're considering.

 

If it's the 'white' MacBook, keep in mind that the Early- and Mid-2009 models do not support Sierra, only the Late-2009 model does. It's the one with the polycarbonate unibody.

 

If it's the aluminium MacBook Pro, the 2009 models only support up to El Capitan. You'll need a Mid-2010 model or newer for Sierra. As an added bonus, these will come with 4GB RAM by default instead of the 2GB of the 2009 models.

 

The Late-2009 MacBook and Mid-2010 MacBook Pro models will serve you well for everyday use as long as you put an SSD in there. Gaming may still be an issue though, as the graphics adapters in these devices isn't much to speak of.

 

MacBook Pro Mid-2011 models and newer have the upgrade from Core2 Duo to Core i5 and up, and are a great improvement over the 2009-2010 lot. If you can find one of those for a nice price (and still add an SSD in there) you'll have a good computer for every day use. Still entry-level for gaming, but definitely more capable for that video editing you want to do...

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2 minutes ago, DHelios said:

I'm afraid the link you provided just points to a generic Google search for '2009 macbook', so I don't know which model you're considering.

 

If it's the 'white' MacBook, keep in mind that the Early- and Mid-2009 models do not support Sierra, only the Late-2009 model does. It's the one with the polycarbonate unibody.

 

If it's the aluminium MacBook Pro, the 2009 models only support up to El Capitan. You'll need a Mid-2010 model or newer for Sierra. As an added bonus, these will come with 4GB RAM by default instead of the 2GB of the 2009 models.

 

The Late-2009 MacBook and Mid-2010 MacBook Pro models will serve you well for everyday use as long as you put an SSD in there. Gaming may still be an issue though, as the graphics adapters in these devices isn't much to speak of.

 

MacBook Pro Mid-2011 models and newer have the upgrade from Core2 Duo to Core i5 and up, and are a great improvement over the 2009-2010 lot. If you can find one of those for a nice price (and still add an SSD in there) you'll have a good computer for every day use. Still entry-level for gaming, but definitely more capable for that video editing you want to do...

One I meant was 4gb ram late 2009 with seirra installed for $160 good condition, photos of everything

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/like/132076545484?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-117182-37290-0%2F2%3Fmtid%3D1588%26kwid%3D1%26crlp%3D183016357862_324272%26itemid%3D132076545484%26targetid%3D340520983647%26rpc%3D0.30%26rpc_upld_id%3D109894%26device%3Dt%26mpre%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252Flike%252F132076545484%253Flpid%253D82%2526chn%253Dps%26adtype%3Dpla%26googleloc%3D9010540%26poi%3D%26campaignid%3D764892186%26adgroupid%3D39783961149%26rlsatarget%3Dpla-340520983647%26gclid%3DCjwKEAiArvTFBRCLq5-7-MSJ0jMSJABHBvp0b3aZL-lYVNz6aBlENrr89z95CMV5CX7H3s7e8DposxoCxdPw_wcB%26srcrot%3D711-117182-37290-0%26rvr_id%3D1178355862639

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8 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

And the point of this topic?  If you've already decided to buy one, go ahead.  Don't start clickbait topics because you're insecure with your decisions.

It's not click bait, just wanting help with pros and cons

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3 minutes ago, DHelios said:

I'm afraid the link you provided just points to a generic Google search for '2009 macbook', so I don't know which model you're considering.

 

If it's the 'white' MacBook, keep in mind that the Early- and Mid-2009 models do not support Sierra, only the Late-2009 model does. It's the one with the polycarbonate unibody.

 

If it's the aluminium MacBook Pro, the 2009 models only support up to El Capitan. You'll need a Mid-2010 model or newer for Sierra. As an added bonus, these will come with 4GB RAM by default instead of the 2GB of the 2009 models.

 

The Late-2009 MacBook and Mid-2010 MacBook Pro models will serve you well for everyday use as long as you put an SSD in there. Gaming may still be an issue though, as the graphics adapters in these devices isn't much to speak of.

 

MacBook Pro Mid-2011 models and newer have the upgrade from Core2 Duo to Core i5 and up, and are a great improvement over the 2009-2010 lot. If you can find one of those for a nice price (and still add an SSD in there) you'll have a good computer for every day use. Still entry-level for gaming, but definitely more capable for that video editing you want to do...

Budget is under $200 USD

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5 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

It's not click bait, just wanting help with pros and cons

Well in that case, that plastic 2009 MB I wouldn't recommend it at all.  Get a second hand MB Air or something closer to being recent with a SSD drive.

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1 minute ago, LucasDerpYT said:

One I meant was 4gb ram late 2009 with seirra installed for $160 good condition, photos of everything

It's the bare minimum of what I'd consider recommending to anyone. Take your time when doing anything, as Sierra is very much optimised with SSDs in mind. As soon as you can, you'll want to at least perform that upgrade.

 

That said, if it's in good condition it's still a decent computer for not much money. Ar for things to check:

  • See if the seller will run an app like Coconut Battery so you can get an idea of what state the battery is in (not much use to a mobile device that isn't mobile for more than five minutes)
  • Check the underside. This model is known for its rubber bottom peeling off. If it's wavy it's likely to come off soon. If it's very clean and has no serial number printed on it (near the little embossed text) the bottom case has already been replaced, and you should be good.

If you can get a Mid-2010 or newer MacBook Pro for not too much more it'll be worth the investment on the aluminium unibody alone. It'll also net you a GeForce 320M upgrade from the 9400M...

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Just now, AkiraDaarkst said:

Well in that case, that plastic 2009 MB I wouldn't recommend it at all.  Get a second hand MB Air or something closer to being recent with a SSD drive.

Is the SSD really important for the tasks that I said in the original post 

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The t420 is a better machine

Don't ask to ask, just ask... please 🤨

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They work well, so if you don't mind over paying (if money isn't an object), just go for it.

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4 minutes ago, DHelios said:

It's the bare minimum of what I'd consider recommending to anyone. Take your time when doing anything, as Sierra is very much optimised with SSDs in mind. As soon as you can, you'll want to at least perform that upgrade.

 

That said, if it's in good condition it's still a decent computer for not much money. Ar for things to check:

  • See if the seller will run an app like Coconut Battery so you can get an idea of what state the battery is in (not much use to a mobile device that isn't mobile for more than five minutes)
  • Check the underside. This model is known for its rubber bottom peeling off. If it's wavy it's likely to come off soon. If it's very clean and has no serial number printed on it (near the little embossed text) the bottom case has already been replaced, and you should be good.

If you can get a Mid-2010 or newer MacBook Pro for not too much more it'll be worth the investment on the aluminium unibody alone. It'll also net you a GeForce 320M upgrade from the 9400M...

This one should do good for seirra right? Upgraded a bit and seems to be black and white.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-13-3-4GB-500GB-7200-rpm-HDD-2-26-GHZ-Late-2009-/172560165609?hash=item282d632ae9:g:TGsAAOSwWxNYuehT

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2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

The t420 is a better machine

Any particular reason it's better for the tasks at hand?

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2 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

Is the SSD really important for the tasks that I said in the original post 

You won't notice much of it during gaming or video editing because for those tasks the device will be bottlenecked by its CPU. For your 'everyday use' though, there is a night and day difference between using Sierra from a hard drive or from an SSD.

 

Another thing to note: make sure the MagSafe adapter is included, or otherwise factor its purchase cost into your decision...

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3 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

This one should do good for seirra right? Upgraded a bit and seems to be black and white.

It's the same model MacBook with the white polycarbonate unibody. This one is just in a black hardshell case. Since the current bid is next to nothing, it's worth a bid. But keep in mind that the black case may be hiding exterior damage to the body underneath, and the other considerations still stand.

 

The 500GB 7200rpm hard drive is likely a slight improvement over its stock drive, if only due to advances in HDD performance over time. Still a night and day difference with an SSD, though...

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*  *  *
MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2010)

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SanDisk SDSSDP | Apple A1278 Aluminium Unibody | macOS Sierra

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WD Blue | Apple A1286 Aluminium Unibody | macOS Sierra

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7 minutes ago, DHelios said:

It's the same model MacBook with the white polycarbonate unibody. This one is just in a black hardshell case. Since the current bid is next to nothing, it's worth a bid. But keep in mind that the black case may be hiding exterior damage to the body underneath, and the other considerations still stand.

 

The 500GB 7200rpm hard drive is likely a slight improvement over its stock drive, if only due to advances in HDD performance over time. Still a night and day difference with an SSD, though...

???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MacBook-Pro-Core-i5-2-4-13-4GB-RAM-A1278-Late-2011-/262876631776?hash=item3d34ab12e0:g:KQoAAOSw3v5Ytz-r

Nvm 

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1 minute ago, LucasDerpYT said:

That'd be a much nicer model, except it's priced like that because it comes without hard drive. Oh, and it won't turn on. Which makes it kind of useless...

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*  *  *
MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2010)

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MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)

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WD Blue | Apple A1286 Aluminium Unibody | macOS Sierra

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14 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

Any particular reason it's better for the tasks at hand?

It's better built and has a better keyboard.

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

It's better built and has a better keyboard.

Yet again is it better for the tasks at hand

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3 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

Yet again is it better for the tasks at hand

Well yes - the things I listed help in everything

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Well yes - the things I listed help in everything

I find the t420 bulky, even to my HP 15 notebook with broken hinges, the keyboard, I use a wireless k360 anyways

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9 minutes ago, DHelios said:

That'd be a much nicer model, except it's priced like that because it comes without hard drive. Oh, and it won't turn on. Which makes it kind of useless...

Would it take much to upgrade this to 4gb and a 160gb SSD? Also how would I get the OSX to the SSD without a external adapter

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1 hour ago, LucasDerpYT said:

SNow before you get your jimmies rustled. I have all my favorite steam games on Mac OS x. It'd be my first time, and 2009 MacBook are still supported with OS x seirra. 

Unturned, CSGO, L4D2, TF2 And abunch others are in there, this post isn't to get you to switch, its for you to help me weigh the pros and cons.

Here is the one I like the most : https://www.google.com/search?q=2009+macbook&sa=X&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS714US715&hl=en-US&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&tbm=shop&prmd=sivn&srpd=11520686346818636399&prds=num:1,of:1,epd:11520686346818636399&ved=0ahUKEwjym4TXp8LSAhVJeSYKHZPBBbIQlzgIPQ

And I'd rather get that than a T420 , I think. 

BTW I am not a apple fanboy . Most of what they do I hate, ($1700 for a slightly less restricted 2015 MacBook? With a cheap gimic? Fuck that)

What I use my current laptop for, YouTube channel management, Watching youtube videos, email

What I want to use my current laptop for : all above, unturned, Minecraft, and Skype calls that don't crash.

What Macs can do : all stated above. I haven't gotten used to Touch on a laptop/desktop so I won't miss that, deeper integration with my phone, (yes I do like my iPhone 4) Skype calls that might not crash, web browsing, what they don't have that I won't miss : bloatware.

"Thinking of buying a macbook"

 

Well if you're considering buying an apple product then you're obviously not thinking

"There is a fine line between not listening, and not caring. I'd like to think I walk that line every day of my life."

 

 

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Desktop:

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CPU: Ryzen 5 2600X w/stock cooler, Motherboard: MSI X370 GAMING PLUS, RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 24gb DDR4-2600, GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 SUPER XC, Case: NZXT S340, PSU: Corsair RMx 750w, Keyboard: Corsair K50, Mouse: Corsair Ironclaw

Laptop:

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Lenovo IdeaPad S540

 

 

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