5820k to 1800x?

[JuiceHead]

I was considering making the jump from a 5820k to a 1800x, is this worth the money and hassle? I do a lot of video rendering and would benefit from the cores, but a lot of the benchmarks I am reading make it seem like only a marginal improvement. 

[patric_o]

I personally would wait another month to see more reviews and benchmarks and allow AMD to work out any kinks they can. imo it's too early to have a definitive answer.

[COUPER MILLAR]

How many pcie devices are you using? 5820k has 28 lanes 1800x has 24 lanes. Not a huge difference but if you are using all of them it becomes one. 

[JuiceHead]

1 minute ago, COUPER MILLAR said:

How many pcie devices are you using? 5820k has 28 lanes 1800x has 24 lanes. Not a huge difference but if you are using all of them it becomes one. 

I shouldn't run into a problem there. 

[Ensho]

I'm not sure why you bother personally.  The 5820K should be able to make up most of the difference with overclocking...which on a 5820K is actually possible.  You already admit the improvement would be marginal at best.  You would be much better served waiting for the Kaby Lake-E refresh of Skylake-E next year imho....or Zen+.

 

An 1800X makes zero sense anyway.  If you want a Ryzen chip...get the 1700 and overclock it to 3.8ghz on all cores.

[beavo451]

12 minutes ago, JuiceHead said:

I was considering making the jump from a 5820k to a 1800x, is this worth the money and hassle? I do a lot of video rendering and would benefit from the cores, but a lot of the benchmarks I am reading make it seem like only a marginal improvement. 

Depending on your motherboard, you could probably get $450-$550 by selling the 5820k and MB. ~$650 for a 1800x and MB.

 

So... ~$150 + effort selling + reinstall. I would say no.

 

If you tried hard enough, you could probably come out on top if you went with a 1700. Based on Paul's Hardware recent overclocking video, the difference between an 1800x and 1700 doesn't seem to be worth $170.

 

Still a lot of effort and it would depend on what "a lot" is. If you are putting out daily videos like Linus does, then every second counts.

[PlayStation 2]

It'd basically be going from a 5820K to an overclocked 5960X, so your mileage would vary depending on how much use you'd get out of the 1800X.

[Stoggy26]

Theres still tons of bug and kinks to work out id wait a few months

[Ensho]

5 minutes ago, beavo451 said:

Still a lot of effort and it would depend on what "a lot" is. If you are putting out daily videos like Linus does, then every second counts.

Even still, a net 2-3 minute redering gain (guesstimate) over a 10 hour workday (one 15 minute video a day) is still not worth worrying about.

[TechyInAZ]

I'd wait for either Kaby Lake-X/Skylake-X or Zen+ If you overclock your 5820K to 4.5ghz, plus add in the fact that you have quad channel memory, you should be very very close to R7 1800X stock speeds in terms of heavy rendering performance.

[jeppouza]

If I were you, I would keep the Haswell, no need for Ryzen in this scenario.

 

[SubLimation7]

59 minutes ago, JuiceHead said:

I was considering making the jump from a 5820k to a 1800x, is this worth the money and hassle? I do a lot of video rendering and would benefit from the cores, but a lot of the benchmarks I am reading make it seem like only a marginal improvement. 

Definitely not worth it for you yet, but from what I can tell 1700 and 1800x are same chip, 1800x just "better silicon".  I was very disappointed in how my 1800x overclocked, despite being fastest on HWbot for air cooling:

It seems people are hitting the same clock speeds on 1700, I have a 1700 preordered to compare.  Oh and also please note that my above OC was on b350 chipset, Amazon screwed me out of my x370 board... still waiting on it.

 

But I will say that I like it over my 6800k a good bit, its doing excellent in VR, which is all I play now anyway, BUT it was also the most frustrating build I've ever done as far as issues once I turned it on, I finally ironed out almost all the issues but if nothing else I would wait a couple of months for firmware updates and such.  But you wouldn't notice much of a performance gain coming from your chip, so why not wait until you see what the refresh looks like later?

 

For clarification, my RYZEN build I built to sell, I'm keeping my 6800k build for now... only because if I sold it I wouldn't get enough of my investment back...

 

IF IM RIGHT THE 1700 WILL BE A RIDICULOUSLY GOOD DEAL!!! $300 FOR A 6900K??? SIGN ME THE **** UP

[TechyInAZ]

Wow @sublimation7, getting almost 4.2ghz out of a 1800X is literally unheard of congrats! Your in the top 5% of 1800Xes that can reach that frequency.

 

I know, it's still bad, but by Ryzen standards, that's really really really good.

[SubLimation7]

8 minutes ago, TechyInAZ said:

Wow @sublimation7, getting almost 4.2ghz out of a 1800X is literally unheard of congrats! Your in the top 5% of 1800Xes that can reach that frequency.

 

I know, it's still bad, but by Ryzen standards, that's really really really good.

I bet if I removed my hidden mods it wouldn't hit that, but thanks!  I've also gotten an 8320 to 5ghz across all 8 cores on hyper 212 evo in 22c ambient w/o breaking 55c, and with only 1 core 54xx MHz, was trying to take down jumper118, but I got scared after 1.6v.  I'll have to revisit the 8320, I'm so close.

 

I own air records in USA for...

8320

6700k

6800k (not proud of)

r71800x (world)

 

Just wanted to make it clear that your not going to get these speeds if you just slap a d15 on to it.  I swear that was my only intention, not bragging at all

[scottyseng]

1 hour ago, SubLimation7 said:

-snip-

Also congratulations on making it past 4.1Ghz. That's hands down the highest clock I've seen so far for ryzen.

 

yeah, the 1700 is shaping up to be a great deal for the price though.