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6 minutes ago, Wikiforce said:

cpu seems a bit too weak.

"a bit"

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Just now, LucasDerpYT said:

The pentiums mobo will be more expensive and the AM4 mobos are really expensive

You can get cheap motherboards for both. 

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24 minutes ago, LucasDerpYT said:

The $400 is a ripoff

Wow, if you think that PC you built for $600 is a good deal... well...

 

@Jodyf  That pre-built PC will do fine for him, for a year or two at least.  It will run the games and that is pretty much all he wants. 

 

You could grab something with a modern quad core (Intel) and use the iGPU(integrated Graphics Processing Unit), until he demands more performance.  When that day arrives, you can upgrade the PC's gaming capability by adding an entry level, performance GPU... like an RX 470 for $150.

 

$350 (i5 6400):  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883101453R

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For a 10 year old, you don't need a fancy keyboard or mouse. Those are for hard-core gamers. I personally use a $1 keyboard I got at a thrift store. Getting something like this would be perfect. It's wireless, and the mouse isn't very big. 

 

As others said, building a computer is pretty easy once you have the parts. I recommend watching some videos on YouTube. Linus did a couple of videos on beginner tips. 

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PSU Tier List  |  The Real Reason Delidding Improves Temperatures | "2K" does not mean 2560×1440 

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13 minutes ago, Jodyf said:

No that's fine.... I can deal with $575. :)

$700 would be my limit.

 

$700 gets you a pretty good gaming PC:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon)  <<you can do a 240GB SSD instead, +$20
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($164.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($9.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Mouse: Corsair Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse  ($14.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $677.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Maybe this will do if you don't want to spend Much more than 400

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbptHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbptHN/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon 5370 2.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($64.26 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Alpine M1 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($9.28 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock AM1B-ITX Mini ITX AM1 Motherboard  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($144.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Silverstone SG06BB-LITE Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: FSP Group 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($62.66 @ Newegg) 
Total: $507.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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2 minutes ago, stconquest said:

$700 gets you a pretty good gaming PC:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 470 4GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($9.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Mouse: Corsair Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse  ($14.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $666.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I think the wireless keyboard and mouse it linked might be a better option. Remember, it's for a 10 year old. A tiny mouse is going to be far more comfortable.  You could also go for an i5-6400 if there is a decent price difference, as you'll only see a 1-2 frame difference max. Other than that, I agree with your list. 

Make sure to quote or tag me (@JoostinOnline) or I won't see your response!

PSU Tier List  |  The Real Reason Delidding Improves Temperatures | "2K" does not mean 2560×1440 

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1 minute ago, LucasDerpYT said:

Maybe this will do if you don't want to spend Much more than 400

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbptHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbptHN/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon 5370 2.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($64.26 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Alpine M1 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($9.28 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock AM1B-ITX Mini ITX AM1 Motherboard  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($144.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Silverstone SG06BB-LITE Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: FSP Group 450W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($62.66 @ Newegg) 
Total: $507.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Another terrible CPU...

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$700?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  ($259.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $701.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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1 minute ago, LucasDerpYT said:

$700?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  ($259.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $701.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-25 14:39 EST-0500

Finally a build suggested by you with a decent CPU. 

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7 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

I think the wireless keyboard and mouse it linked might be a better option. Remember, it's for a 10 year old. A tiny mouse is going to be far more comfortable. 

I also just noticed the RX 480 (Red Devil) is only $10 more.

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1 minute ago, stconquest said:

I also just noticed the RX 480 (Red Devil) is only $10 more.

At 10 a M510 that I just bought a new one after a m325 for 3 months, the m510 fits perfect and if you want to up your game from a 510 go for a 560 or MX Anywhere

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@Jodyf Sorry if we're overloading you with information. xD Watch these while you're waiting for everyone to agree 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, LucasDerpYT said:

At 10 a M510 that I just bought a new one after a m325 for 3 months, the m510 fits perfect and if you want to up your game from a 510 go for a 560 or MX Anywhere

Not to sound rude, but what are you talking about?

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Just now, stconquest said:

How many builds are you planning to post?

Just my last one, the best one

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  ($259.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $701.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Can you agree with me?

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50 minutes ago, Jodyf said:

Good point. I know building a PC is the best option, I just need to get some confidence and stop being fearful of doing it!

Nowadays, PC building is a simpler process than messing with Legos. The big things you need to be careful of are installing the cpu (pins are fragile), and making sure the motherboard standoffs are in place to prevent shorts. Aside from these two steps, PC building is a fairly painless process. I'd argue the more difficult part is actually researching what components to use. (current naming schemes are borderline cryptic and not at all self explanatory). 

 

If possible, it would be good to have your son involved if you choose to build a pc. 

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you guys need to check the motherboards you are suggesting with the g4560 and make sure the cpu will work out of the box with it's current BIOS. no need to make matters worse. they do exist. but I would get a cpu that is known to work from the start.

I wouldn't suggest amd's old gas guzzling architecture at this point in time.

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Just now, LucasDerpYT said:

Just my last one, the best one

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW93jc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  ($259.99 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $701.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Can you agree with me?

No OS, no mouse and no keyboard.  The 6500 + RX 480 (4GB) is more power than her son will use.  I would actually argue against getting it.  The performance of this build is the roughly the same and you are well over budget.

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Just now, stconquest said:

No OS, no mouse and no keyboard.  The 6500 + RX 480 (4GB) is more power than her son will use.  I would actually argue against getting it.  The performance of this build is the roughly the same and you are well over budget.

Again $40 k120 m100 and a Windows key from Kinguin 

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