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Woofly94

So I'm running a i7 7700k at 4.7ghz and with all new hype about Ryzen, would it be worth the £800 to upgrade from i7 7700k to Ryzen R7 1800X when all I do is gaming? I don't render or stream etc.

 

Am I getting caught up with the hype or would it be actually worth going from i7 7700k to Ryzen, I'd have to fork out £800 for Mobo and CPU, with that I could almost get a 2nd GTX Titan X (Pascal)

 

So do I go for Ryzen R7 1800X or get another Titan X? or neither.

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2 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

So I'm running a i7 7700k at 4.7ghz and with all new hype about Ryzen, would it be worth the £800 to upgrade from i7 7700k to Ryzen R7 1800X when all I do is gaming? I don't render or stream etc.

 

Am I getting caught up with the hype or would it be actually worth going from i7 7700k to Ryzen, I'd have to fork out £800 for Mobo and CPU, with that I could almost get a 2nd GTX Titan X (Pascal)

 

So do I go for Ryzen R7 1800X or get another Titan X? or neither.

Neither, I'd say, but if you're insistent on spending your money, get another Titan X. The Ryzen chips are a great proposition, but if you're already on a very modern platform and all you do is game, this sideways upgrade is not going to be worth your money.

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6 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

So I'm running a i7 7700k at 4.7ghz and with all new hype about Ryzen, would it be worth the £800 to upgrade from i7 7700k to Ryzen R7 1800X when all I do is gaming? I don't render or stream etc.

 

Am I getting caught up with the hype or would it be actually worth going from i7 7700k to Ryzen, I'd have to fork out £800 for Mobo and CPU, with that I could almost get a 2nd GTX Titan X (Pascal)

 

So do I go for Ryzen R7 1800X or get another Titan X? or neither.

Neither, nuff said.

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I would say keep your money since your really not going to get a performance boost, but if you really must getting a second Titan X would be the better option.

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3 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Neither, keep your money

 

1800x is slower single-core, meaning gaming performance would be worse than a 7700k. 

Do you have source for single-core benchmarks? I only saw multi-thread

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Honestly I would take the money and go shopping on ebay for some older Xeon parts and cheap RAM, and build my own personal server box.

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8 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

So I'm running a i7 7700k at 4.7ghz and with all new hype about Ryzen, would it be worth the £800 to upgrade from i7 7700k to Ryzen R7 1800X when all I do is gaming? I don't render or stream etc.

 

Am I getting caught up with the hype or would it be actually worth going from i7 7700k to Ryzen, I'd have to fork out £800 for Mobo and CPU, with that I could almost get a 2nd GTX Titan X (Pascal)

 

So do I go for Ryzen R7 1800X or get another Titan X? or neither.

neither.   you are a while away from needing to upgrade anything given your usage described.

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3 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

Do you have source for single-core benchmarks? I only saw multi-thread

None except rumors. But considering that they didn't show off gaming benches vs a 7700k instead vs the 6800k, I'd assume that the single core performance is better than Broadwell-E but worse than Skylake or Kaby Lake. 

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2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

None except rumors. But considering that they didn't show off gaming benches vs a 7700k instead vs the 6800k, I'd assume that the single core performance is better than Broadwell-E but worse than Skylake or Kaby Lake. 

They did show a 1700 take on a 7700K, didn't they? That should give us an indication of how an 1800X will do against a 7700K. Having said that, we're ultimately talking about such small differences that regardless of which chip comes out on top, it's not worth blowing €800 on going from one to the other.

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1 minute ago, rjfaber91 said:

They did show a 1700 take on a 7700K, didn't they? That should give us an indication of how an 1800X will do against a 7700K. Having said that, we're ultimately talking about such small differences that regardless of which chip comes out on top, it's not worth blowing €800 on going from one to the other.

They did, but it was in streaming benches - not dependent on pure single-threaded performance, dependent on how many cores you can feed it. 

7700K was stuttering balls whereas 1800X was smashing it with almost graceful speed. 

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2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

They did, but it was in streaming benches - not dependent on pure single-threaded performance, dependent on how many cores you can feed it. 

7700K was stuttering balls whereas 1800X was smashing it with almost graceful speed. 

 

4 minutes ago, rjfaber91 said:

They did show a 1700 take on a 7700K, didn't they? That should give us an indication of how an 1800X will do against a 7700K. Having said that, we're ultimately talking about such small differences that regardless of which chip comes out on top, it's not worth blowing €800 on going from one to the other.

So do you think that £800 would be better spent on a 2nd Titan?

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2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

They did, but it was in streaming benches - not dependent on pure single-threaded performance, dependent on how many cores you can feed it. 

7700K was stuttering balls whereas 1800X was smashing it with almost graceful speed. 

Yeah, I know they did that, but on the slides regarding the 1700, I seem to recall they had both single-core and multi-core performance compared to a 7700K, and the 1700 came out on top (albeit very slightly on the single-core performance) in both.

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2 minutes ago, Woofly94 said:

 

So do you think that £800 would be better spent on a 2nd Titan?

I think you should spend it on a lovely holiday, mate. If you absolutely must spend it on PC hardware though, and your choice is between an 1800X and AM4 motherboard or a second Titan X, get the Titan.

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6 minutes ago, rjfaber91 said:

Yeah, I know they did that, but on the slides regarding the 1700, I seem to recall they had both single-core and multi-core performance compared to a 7700K, and the 1700 came out on top (albeit very slightly on the single-core performance) in both.

Nope, can't find anything about it anywhere. it seems to only be compared to the enthusiast parts.. good old cherrypicking

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I wouldn't upgrade just for the sake of upgrading to be honest. 

 

About the CPU, the jump in performance doesn't justify the price. Your CPU is brand new and pretty strong. It will also probably perform better in games because of the higher clocks.

 

About the GPU, do you actually have any use for a second Titan? Are you running a crazy setup for which one is not enough? Are you rendering videos on multiple instances? If not, then I wouldn't bother. All you will gain is better specs on paper, but nothing to really show for it.

 
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