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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CxxKGf

 

This is a build that I'm looking at. Anyways to improve it or cut costs without sacrificing too much performance? The main key is budget and small form-factor for me. Also, how do you guys think this will run CS:GO or Overwatch at high settings?

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Hi,

 

what is your total budget (most you're willing / able to spend) and location?

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Looks pretty good, and I'd say this PC will run CS:GO and Overwatch no problem.

 

Though with budget systems, I always recommend going for used parts.

Used CPUs are pretty much risk free, especially if you have paypal protection or similar, and I've bought loads of used GPUs in my time and they've all worked.

Maybe a haswell i3 (you can find new mobos for LGA1150) and a R7 270X or similar?

Also, squeezing in even a 64gb SSD for a boot drive and core programs will considerably improve how the PC handles.

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3 minutes ago, vojta.pokorny said:

Hi,

 

what is your total budget (most you're willing / able to spend) and location?

$500 is the max I'm really willing to spend, not including peripherals, but the cheaper the better for me. I live in the U.S.

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Ermmm...you do know that you may need to update the motherboard's BIOS for it to work with Kabylake chips...where updating the BIOS usually requires a skylake chip...

I'd also recommend this PSU over the one you listed :) 

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I'm not very experienced with budget hardware so I can't make any specific suggestions. 

 

But perhaps having a look at getting a Haswell CPU and compatible motherboard. It might be cheaper than the newer platform if you can get your hands on them. There hasn't been much of a performance increase since then and when you're looking at the budget end the newer technologies that come with newer hardware (eg. USB 3.1) aren't there anyway or aren't relevant.

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Czech this out. I did trade the 1050Ti for RX460 in order to get the SSD in there, and as @Mr.Meerkat said, there's a chance that the board won't work with that CPU out of the box. I swapped the memory to 1x8GB stick so you can upgrade in the future, added the motherboard model with Wifi (optional step though) and changed the PSU into a semi-modular one.

 

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Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($56.88 @ OutletPC) 
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Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
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14 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Ermmm...you do know that you may need to update the motherboard's BIOS for it to work with Kabylake chips...where updating the BIOS usually requires a skylake chip...

I'd also recommend this PSU over the one you listed :) 

I really want to go with the new Pentium just because it has hyperthreading. Also, aren't they the same chipset? What does a BIOS update include, meaning is it hard to do?

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You could get this instead of a 1050ti:

https://us.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SGRANVIGTX7702GA#.WJupGH-8p3c

 

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4 minutes ago, techdookie13 said:

I really want to go with the new Pentium just because it has hyperthreading. Also, aren't they the same chipset? What does a BIOS update include, meaning is it hard to do?

You'd need a H210 H270 mobo for it to support the pentium out of the box, though most mobos are getting an update, so if you know someone that has a skylake CPU you could borrow their CPU to update the mobo.

REMILIA Mk.IIIG CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X3D, Cooler: Gelid Sirocco (Arctic MX6), RAM: 4x 8Gb sticks of Patriot Viper Steel Series 3600 CL17, Mobo: AsRock X570 Taichi, GPU: Inno3D RTX 3080 iChill x4 10G, Storage: 1TB Intel 670p NVME SSD boot drive, a few 1TB and 512gb SATA/NVME SSDs for game storage, 6 hard drives:2-12 TB, PSU: Montech Century II 850W, Case: Silverstone FLP02, PCIE Cards: Cheap Chinese Marvell 88SE9215 4 port SATA card, Sonnet Allegro USB3.2 Card Monitors: ViewSonic Elite XG270QC (165hz, 1ms MPRT, 1440p, VA, Freesync PP, pneumatic stand), electriq 27qhd180i (IPS, 180hz, 1440p, 1Ms), iiyama G2530HSU-B (75Hz, Freesync, one in landscape, one in Portrait, all on pneumatic monitor stands).

 

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9 minutes ago, ibabyslapper said:

You'd need a H210 mobo for it to support the pentium out of the box, though most mobos are getting an update, so if you know someone that has a skylake CPU you could borrow their CPU to update the mobo.

Do you mean a H110 mobo, because I couldn't see the H210. Also what are the requirements of a BIOS update? What do I need to do it?

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7 minutes ago, techdookie13 said:

Do you mean a H110 mobo, because I couldn't see the H210. Also what are the requirements of a BIOS update? What do I need to do it?

Whoops, sorry I meant H270.

But I made a build under 500 with a H270 itx mobo

You can find windows 10 for $5 or so if you search windows 10 key on ebay.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qJGzWX

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9 minutes ago, techdookie13 said:

Do you mean a H110 mobo, because I couldn't see the H210. Also what are the requirements of a BIOS update? What do I need to do it?

This is the link to the GTX 770, CEX has a 2 year warranty for their stuff and I use them quite often (they're in the UK and USA)

It's a lucky dip in what GTX 770 you'll get.

https://us.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SGRANVIGTX7702GA#.WJupGH-8p3c

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Mic: iSK UPM-1 USB XLR interface with Neewer NW700, Audio: Sabaj A3 160W DAC/AMP + Wharfdale Diamond 220 + Mission MS6 Sub, Fiio K11 R2R DAC + Douk P5 (Toshiba Tubes), Sendy Peacock, Mouse: Glorious Model I, Keyboard: Glorious GMMK ISO with Mengmoda MMD Tactile (main) and Kailh Box Navy (Function keys), Tribosys 3203 brush lubed, Taihao Green forest caps.

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8 hours ago, techdookie13 said:

I really want to go with the new Pentium just because it has hyperthreading. Also, aren't they the same chipset? What does a BIOS update include, meaning is it hard to do?

BIOS updates aren't really hard to do nowadays as it's just simply slot the USB stick in (with the new bios) and press some buttons...

Usually you don't need to update your BIOS but as the new update add compatibility with kabylake CPUs, you kinda do...

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