GTX 780 TI NOISE TEST VIDEO

[lhikari]

nice <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzGD8iTR00

[SteepGnomeKing]

Wow, that's super quite compared to the 290/290X, MAYBE it is because this card doesn't reach it thermal limit and destroy any OC potential it has.

 

I hope AMD doesn't release a 290x with an aftermarket cooler so it doesn't destroy the 780/780ti is performance.

/sarcasm.

 

I believe once the 290x get's a msi windforce or DCU2 cooler it will do better than a 780ti when both are OC.

[JoshM]

Wow, that's super quite compared to the 290/290X, MAYBE it is because this card doesn't reach it thermal limit and destroy any OC potential it has.

 

I hope AMD doesn't release a 290x with an aftermarket cooler so it doesn't destroy the 780/780ti is performance.

 

/sarcasm.

 

I believe once the 290x get's a msi windforce or DCU2 cooler it will do better than a 780ti when both are OC.

Easily 

[D3MON]

seriously without a point of reference videos mean nothing.
performance=heat, if you crank an nvidia card up to compete it will run hotter and louder, both amd and nvidia have the same software basicly, want it to run cooler, hotter, quieter, louder you can just set it.
untill we get both cards doing a benchmark side by side with both fans at 60% and the gpus at 1000mhz core then we can decide whats the better architecture/fan (though i do think the nvidia cooler is better its like 2%).
not before.

some review sites have complained about the 95*c heat limit and then overclocked and found out that the temperitures never went up, in other words its set to run hot for next to no reason and amd are leaving it up to us to set our own fan profiles, people complain about the 480 and r9-290x...damn id love to get either, my 285 hits 77*c at 77% fan speed (linear 50-80) and i clean it every 4 months.

[SteepGnomeKing]

seriously without a point of reference videos mean nothing.

performance=heat, if you crank an nvidia card up to compete it will run hotter and louder, both amd and nvidia have the same software basicly, want it to run cooler, hotter, quieter, louder you can just set it.

untill we get both cards doing a benchmark side by side with both fans at 60% and the gpus at 1000mhz core then we can decide whats the better architecture/fan (though i do think the nvidia cooler is better its like 2%).

not before.

 

No matter how much performance is there there should be a proper cooling system that doesn't limit how fast it can run. That is what AMD is currently doing. That isn't good and only hurting there reputation. Although only the people who can put 2 and 2 together because most people don't seem to see that or even mention it, including most reviewers including Linus. 

 

I think of this like cars. If I could only drive a 450HP ferrari for 1hr before it needs a break compared to a f150 at 400hp which can run until it's out of fuel which are you going to get. Not the same circumstances but the AMD care limits itself because of the heat while the Nvidia cards don't.

 

I'd rather get the Nvidia card at this time because of that reason. AMD is screwing themselves at this time. People who bought the 290x now are either A) watercooling or b ) misinformed and/or buying because they can

[AlwaysFSX]

That 780 Ti is quiter than my XFX 7770

[kinkywink]

That 780 Ti is quiter than my XFX 7770

i had to turn the volume up to here it over my laptop.

[AlwaysFSX]

i had to turn the volume up to here it over my laptop.

I'm glad my headphones are mostly noise canceling because of my space heater

[ajoy39]

Skip to the end of the video if you haven't already, card does actually make some noise but the first 5 minutes or so the thing is damn near silent. Not as much as a 290x but it is louder than I would want. 

[kinkywink]

I'm glad my headphones are mostly noise canceling because of my space heater

:L too dark to find my headphones

 

Skip to the end of the video if you haven't already, card does actually make some noise but the first 5 minutes or so the thing is damn near silent. Not as much as a 290x but it is louder than I would want. 

eh, as long as it competes with amd, pushing both nvidias and amds prices down im happy. im so wanting a 780 for my build next year!

[D3MON]

No matter how much performance is there there should be a proper cooling system that doesn't limit how fast it can run. That is what AMD is currently doing. That isn't good and only hurting there reputation. Although only to people who can put 2 and 2 together because most people don't seem to see that or even mention it, including most reviewers including Linus. 

 

I think of this like cars. If I could only drive a 450HP ferrari for 1hr before it needs a break compared to a f150 at 400hp which can run until it's out of fuel which are you going to get. Not the same circumstances but the AMD care limits itself because of the heat while the Nvidia cards don't.

 

I'd rather get the Nvidia card at this time because of that reason. AMD is screwing themselves at this time. People who bought the 290x now are either A) watercooling or b ) misinformed and/or buying because they can

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essentially you can overclock it if you know how to move a slider

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/powercolor_r9_290x_oc/4.htm

1135 core 1400 memory

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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/10/24/amd-radeon-r9-290x-4gb-review/12

1120 core 1400 memory

using a blower fan was a dumb move by all companies because they become less efficient as rpm rise but most people are enthusiasts and not engineers so they wouldn't know that

my gtx285 hits 77*c at 77% and my gtx 260 folding away behind me is currently at 70% at 70degrees, id love a gtx480 or 290 (memory bandwidth for the win either way).

if you wanna relate it to cars then you should know that in formula one the body designers (and aero guys) want a small slipper body but the engineers want big ducts for cooling, by making the engines run at higher temps it means that the engines can make the same power and the car be made more aerodynamic.

facebook has started doing the same thing with thier servers, they moved the temperiture regulation from 80*f to 85*f (though most data centers are around 70-75), the reason they have done this is to cut down in the power required to cool it, amd did the same thing raising the max temp limit and limited the fan speed to 55% to cut down on noise, of course if you want it cooler and louder you can turn it up, its called choice.

if it was me id overclock it to 1100 and set the max fan speed to 70% at 85*c if it gets there and going by the reviews above itd probably spend most of its time at 70% at 75*c. people only seem able to quote temps OR loudness, never temperitures at a given fan speed and noise level, why is that?

[D3MON]

both by the same guy, skip to 3/4 of the way through, lets get some light on this shall we and remove anybias.

[SteepGnomeKing]

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Yes, but see the thing with what you said is in those circumstances the power isn't being limited by their thermals. They are just raising the thermals for more performance.

 

While AMD has reached it's max thermals and is limiting its self in performance.

 

That is what I think they are failing at.

[Kiwiandapple]

Skip to the end of the video if you haven't already, card does actually make some noise but the first 5 minutes or so the thing is damn near silent. Not as much as a 290x but it is louder than I would want. 

 

I hope you know that they push the fans to a 100% speed in these tests. In real scenarios they won't ever reach that speed. At least I assume, I don't have a reference card but my card runs at 40% idle, 55/60% in games. 

[SteepGnomeKing]

I hope you know that they push the fans to a 100% speed in these tests. In real scenarios they won't ever reach that speed. At least I assume, I don't have a reference card but my card runs at 40% idle, 55/60% in games. 

 

I'm not going to look it up but silent is 40% and uber is 55% (if I remember). So yes it is still loud. Much louder than an aftermarket while also at a higher temp. Why AMD ever though a reference launch was smart is beyond me.

 

TTL said it was because some after market cards suck, But MSI Windforce and Asus DCU2 are the best out there that are on both Nvidia and AMD. They should have launched with those and blown the 780 out of the water and shown it's true potential.

All I see, is it sucks and a 780 is worth it because it OC's better and is cheaper. Not a good image for AMD to have.

[D3MON]

Yes, but see the thing with what you said is in those circumstances the power isn't being limited by their thermals. They are just raising the thermals for more performance.

 

While AMD has reached it's max thermals and is limiting its self in performance.

 

That is what I think they are failing at.

They raised the thermal ceiling to reduce noise (performance hasnt changed, its still GCN), i think they did it too much the stock max temp should of been 80 and the stock upper fan speed should of been 60%, but whatever.

It's no different than what intel does, noone calls the intel stock caller loud (amd's one is known to be louder but better cooling). It's fine for intel to have a quiet (non overclockable) stock cooler because the tjmax on something like a 4770k has a max reccomended temp of around 80*c (and a tj max of 105*c)

AMD did what intel did, reduce fan speed to reduce noise and allow to chip to run hotter,... it doesnt change the maximum overclock much (theres a small penalty going from 7970 to 290x in the same way as a 4930k wont be as overclockable as a 4770k).

pretty simple stuff

[SteepGnomeKing]

It's no different than what intel does, noone calls the intel stock caller loud (amd's one is known to be louder but better cooling). It's fine for intel to have a quiet (non overclockable) stock cooler because the tjmax on something like a 4770k has a max reccomended temp of around 80*c (and a tj max of 105*c)

 

Ok, but seriously no one buys a $500 intel cpu and runs the stock cooler. That's idiotic. That is what AMD is doing. 

Once aftermarket coolers come it will be great I'm not denying that never have, but in it's current state it sucks and reaching it's limit.

[D3MON]

 

All I see, is it sucks and a 780 is worth it because it OC's better and is cheaper. Not a good image for AMD to have.

what about 290 vs 780 both overclocked? (noones done it funnily enough) the 290 overclocks pretty damn well and is cheaper still, its only hampered by no voltage adjustment.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/05/amd-radeon-r9-290-review/10

id say theyre neck and neck, id get a 290 and get a waterblock, silent, cool running, 4k gaming, sounds pretty futureproof.

[D3MON]

Ok, but seriously no one buys a $500 intel cpu and runs the stock cooler. That's idiotic. That is what AMD is doing. 

Once aftermarket coolers come it will be great I'm not denying that never have but in it's current state it sucks and reaching it's limit.

how is it? i still don't see how you get that, ive given examples of what theyre doing (and they xbox one'd it a little) but theres nothing wrong with it, you can overclock, you can have it silent, you can have it cool. you can pick any 2, thats no differnt than say hawell.. you have a good point (following my 4930k comparison) but people have done it and did we ever say "intel what are you doing! running a 6 core 12 thread monster with a pansy cooler, you guys are rubbish! im buying AMD because their coolers are better..." No, we went and watercooled them and then with 2011 they didnt even bother to give us a cooler they expect you to watercool, whats AMD meant to do? sell the base card expecting you to watercool, they know people will likely buy the aftermarket ones or watercool it, i think they're just releasing the reference ones to give people the chance to game on it now and buy a water block next month when thier next paycheck comes in.

[KakaoDj]

Wow, that's super quite compared to the 290/290X, MAYBE it is because this card doesn't reach it thermal limit and destroy any OC potential it has.

 

I hope AMD doesn't release a 290x with an aftermarket cooler so it doesn't destroy the 780/780ti is performance.

/sarcasm.

 

I believe once the 290x get's a msi windforce or DCU2 cooler it will do better than a 780ti when both are OC.

"Destroy any OC potential it has"

I dont get why people cant understand how the 290X works. IT OVERCLOCKS ITSELF. 

[SteepGnomeKing]

"Destroy any OC potential it has"

I dont get why people cant understand how the 290X works. IT OVERCLOCKS ITSELF. 

 

No it doesn't, I don't know why people think 95c is a proper temp to be at even at normal and uber mode.

The GTX780 does until it reaches it max core clock. The 290x reaches it's thermal before it can increase it's clock anymore. Therefor limiting itself.

[KakaoDj]

No it doesn't, I don't know why people think 95c is a proper temp to be at even at normal and uber mode.

The GTX780 does until it reaches it max core clock. The 290x reaches it's thermal before it can increase it's clock anymore. Therefor limiting itself.

Clocks are not the entire story anymore, GPU boost 2 works in the exact same way, just way less agressive. It is just like an FX-8350 @5GHz almost equals a 4670K @ 4Ghz. 

[Kuzma]

No it doesn't, I don't know why people think 95c is a proper temp to be at even at normal and uber mode.

The GTX780 does until it reaches it max core clock. The 290x reaches it's thermal before it can increase it's clock anymore. Therefor limiting itself.

V_V so you're saying it's an issue that Intel stock coolers keep Intel CPUs at high temperatures even though they've been tested to be perfectly fine?

[SteepGnomeKing]

Clocks are not the entire story anymore, GPU boost 2 works in the exact same way, just way less agressive. It is just like an FX-8350 @5GHz almost equals a 4670K @ 4Ghz. 

V_V so you're saying it's an issue that Intel stock coolers keep Intel CPUs at high temperatures even though they've been tested to be perfectly fine?

 

Yea, that's not what I'm saying but i'm done. Not saying anymore. If I haven't said anything to convince you yet I won't at all so no point i'm not going to waste my time. I'm done. Belive what you want and twist my words. Be happy thinking you won. 

[Kuzma]

Yea, that's not what I'm saying but i'm done. Not saying anymore. If I haven't said anything to convince you yet I won't at all so no point i'm not going to waste my time. I'm done. Belive what you want and twist my words. Be happy thinking you won. 

I'm not trying to win anything dude I'm just tryingto make you think about what you're saying

Personally I'm having a hard time recommending the R9 290X compared to either this or the 780 simply because of heat+power consumption+noise but if the manufacturer says that the product is rated to run at a temperature and it runs at that temperature I don't see the problem? It's exactly like what Intel does with their CPUs but no one uproars about it - they buy an after market cooler just like many people do with GPUs and tbh I think that's where I'm headed as they outperform most aftermarket coolers and are usually quieter.