Upgrade ancient 5870 for stable 60 fps

[a-joh]

I'm looking at upgrading my ancient ATI 5870, but my budget is limited.

 

With the purchase of a freesync monitor, I'd like to stick with the red team. It's only got a range of 48-60hz, so that's my target for framerate as well.

 

Will a RX460 give me a boost in performance compared to the 5870 and will it allow me to play newer games on high settings? I can sacrifice ultra settings, but would like to stay above medium. (PS4 handles that nicely).

 

Games I play:

I like to test MMO's and my current game is FFXIV. My 5870 handles that very well on DX9 and high laptop settings. New MMO releases are likely to be tested as well until I find one to rule them all. I'm also interested in Conan exiles, Doom, Witcher 3 and maybe Overwatch.

[Hip]

What is your budget first?

[JoaoPRSousa]

4 minutes ago, Hip said:

What is your budget first?

 

This and please post the PC's specs.

[LabRat]

you need to watch what cards you buy...... ( your system is old ) and Windows XP and Vista are not supported by some AMD and nvidia cards................ the newer ones mostly.

 

[Phate.exe]

Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, the RX 470 4GB?

[Jumper118]

just get another one?

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

just get another one?

that would only make sense if he needs a heater,

my rx480 helps me at night :-p

its power is just enough to keep the room warm

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

that would only make sense if he needs a heater,

my rx480 helps me at night :-p

its power is just enough to keep the room warm

this system isnt that power hungry only 593w max from the wall. 

[a-joh]

25 minutes ago, Hip said:

What is your budget first?

I would like to keep it inexpensive.. but if it proves impossible, then I can reach for a RX 480. 470 and 480 are the same price here.

RX 460 = 120$

RX 470/480 = ~240$

 

Specs:
AMD Phenom X4 965

4GB memory

Asus Crosshair Formula IV

ATI 5870

 

I'm waiting for Ryzen to launch before I decide on a CPU upgrade.

[Hip]

3 minutes ago, a-joh said:

I would like to keep it inexpensive.. but if it proves impossible, then I can reach for a RX 480. 470 and 480 are the same price here.

RX 460 = 120$

RX 470/480 = ~240$

 

Specs:
AMD Phenom X4 965

4GB memory

Asus Crosshair Formula IV

ATI 5870

 

I'm waiting for Ryzen to launch before I decide on a CPU upgrade.

I would upgrade then your Ram too. 4 Gb is very less.

Get an RX 480 with 8GB. (y) You won't be disappointed.

Maybe the Devil edition with TripleFans?

[cj09beira]

39 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

this system isnt that power hungry only 593w max from the wall. 

i was overclocking last night, on my rx 480 got it o 1440 and 2250 memory, but it jumps from 139w max to 150w max :-(

and thats before all the power loss on rectification (psu) and power delivery of the gpu

 

[Jumper118]

1 hour ago, cj09beira said:

i was overclocking last night, on my rx 480 got it o 1440 and 2250 memory, but it jumps from 139w max to 150w max :-(

and thats before all the power loss on rectification (psu) and power delivery of the gpu

 

who cares about a few watts. my rx480's use 200w each when fully oc'ed

 

[Fatsu]

4 hours ago, a-joh said:

I would like to keep it inexpensive.. but if it proves impossible, then I can reach for a RX 480. 470 and 480 are the same price here.

RX 460 = 120$

RX 470/480 = ~240$

 

Specs:
AMD Phenom X4 965

4GB memory

Asus Crosshair Formula IV

ATI 5870

 

I'm waiting for Ryzen to launch before I decide on a CPU upgrade.

i would go for a 470 but since the 480 is the same price that's a no brainer i guess... 

Like others said, get some ram! it will make wonders

[cj09beira]

9 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

who cares about a few watts. my rx480's use 200w each when fully oc'ed

 

what voltage are you at? i am at 1.150 v (haven't tried lowering yet, and its a +100mv)

planing to steal my brothers 480 to do some crossfire benchmarks :-) while he is out.

Ps: its 150 for just the core, using afterburner's data

[a-joh]

It seems the consensus is to get a RX 480, but does that mean an RX 460 isnt an upgrade or just not a big upgrade?
 

Ram upgrade is not going to happen until Ryzen is out. Money spent on DDR3 is wasted. Used to have 8GB, but donated 4GB to my sister.

 

Powersupply is a Corsair HX750W (80 plus silver)

Everything about the computer is rock solid. Never had any issues with it unless I overclocked.

[dragoon20005]

11 minutes ago, a-joh said:

It seems the consensus is to get a RX 480, but does that mean an RX 460 isnt an upgrade or just not a big upgrade?
 

Ram upgrade is not going to happen until Ryzen is out. Money spent on DDR3 is wasted. Used to have 8GB, but donated 4GB to my sister.

 

Powersupply is a Corsair HX750W (80 plus silver)

Everything about the computer is rock solid. Never had any issues with it unless I overclocked.

the 460 isnt a great upgrade from your current GPU

 

the RX 480 is a killer GPU for the 240-250 dollar price range and its VR ready and DX12 support

[a-joh]

3 minutes ago, dragoon20005 said:

the 460 isnt a great upgrade from your current GPU

 

the RX 480 is a killer GPU for the 240-250 dollar price range and its VR ready and DX12 support

 

Alright, thanks. I guess I'll wait until I can afford a 480 then.

[Jumper118]

9 hours ago, cj09beira said:

what voltage are you at? i am at 1.150 v (haven't tried lowering yet, and its a +100mv)

planing to steal my brothers 480 to do some crossfire benchmarks :-) while he is out.

Ps: its 150 for just the core, using afterburner's data

1.3v

[LabRat]

4 hours ago, a-joh said:

 

Alright, thanks. I guess I'll wait until I can afford a 480 then.

a 480 is $150 on newegg right now. if you can't afford that, when you can, they will be gone..........or so over priced because there are so few left.

[cj09beira]

1 hour ago, Jumper118 said:

1.3v

great to hear, then i can probably push more out of mine, YES, bring the mhz, hahahahaa!

[a-joh]

So I just sold one of my cameras to fund an RX 480.. but which one to I choose?

 

The ones that are within my price range are

• XFX Radeon RX 480 RS 4GB - 268$
• Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 4GB - 280$

I'm the kind of guy that get very annoyed and tired of noise, so I'm a bit concerned about these "cheap" cards.

The MSI Gaming X version is 317$ and I would rather not spend that much.

 

Alternatively I could afford a higher-end RX 470 like the MSI RX 470 Gaming X 4GB for 162$

[Nena Trinity]

On 25.1.2017 at 3:09 PM, Phate.exe said:

Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, the RX 470 4GB?

This or the RX 480!

[LabRat]

go to newegg and read the reviews. you don't have to spend for the highest price card. I rarely buy the over clocked cards. not worth the money.

[MilfShake]

5 hours ago, a-joh said:

So I just sold one of my cameras to fund an RX 480.. but which one to I choose?

 

The ones that are within my price range are

• XFX Radeon RX 480 RS 4GB - 268$
• Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 4GB - 280$

I'm the kind of guy that get very annoyed and tired of noise, so I'm a bit concerned about these "cheap" cards.

The MSI Gaming X version is 317$ and I would rather not spend that much.

 

Alternatively I could afford a higher-end RX 470 like the MSI RX 470 Gaming X 4GB for 162$

They are all advertising crap...The factory overclocked cards are tricks manufacturers use to fool less-informed customers to pay a premium. 

 

Unless the gaming X is 8GB version then you have to think about what you really need, 4GB or 8GB, but for 1080p 4GB is more than enough. 

 

For graphics card in general, just buy the cheapest one and after a few clicks in Afterburner, you will have a card with higher clock speed than all of the overpriced ones.

 

However, according to benchmarks, the rx470 and rx480 are very close in term of performance. If you can buy a XFX 470 for $150 vs. XFX 480 for $268, that is 78% increase in price, and the rx480 is of course not 78% faster than the rx470, more like 10%-15%.