1080 for 1080p 144hz?

[Guest lilbman]

This is my kids first computer-he is 14. I know the 1080 is super overpowered for 1080p but I want this thing to last a super freaking long time at 1080p.  Approximately how long will this build be able to play at 1080p with maxed out settings and what kind of FPS can I expect?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wsYgCy this is the build.  I know it seems expensive but I trust him with it.

 

UPDATE-this is his new build.  He will work for any upgrades in the future.-https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qpmkbj

[Nena Trinity]

Someone I know did that but you cannot expect 144fps in all titles... (get a Z170 board...)

[bgibbz]

It would easily handle this generation of games at max settings,  struggle to handle next generation of games, and you would begin to turn down the settings a generation after that. It should last for quite some one, so long as you are ok turning down some game settings. 

[Froody129]

It'll be cheaper and you'll get more performance if you get a mid range GPU evey few years instead of a super expensive one now. As you go on they'll get cheaper since 1080p is being fazed out.

[Guest lilbman]

4 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

It would easily handle this generation of games at max settings,  struggle to handle next generation of games, and you would begin to turn down the settings a generation after that. It should last for quite some one, so long as you are ok turning down some game settings. 

How long does a generation of games last?

[Guest lilbman]

1 minute ago, Froody129 said:

It'll be cheaper and you'll get more performance if you get a mid range GPU evey few years instead of a super expensive one now. As you go on they'll get cheaper since 1080p is being fazed out.

So should I get him a 1060 6GB instead?

[Apollo Refugio]

Like the others, overtime the 1080 will just not be powerful enough to run 1080p at 144 Hz, and you should honestly get a bigger case, a Z170 board, and maybe more storage because that 120 GB SSD and that WD 1TB will not be enough for a few years for sure.

[mathijs727]

Get a GTX1060 (6GB) or RX480 and update in a couple (1 to 3) years.

By that time a 300 dollar card will beat the GTX1080 and have nice new features.

 

And if it needs to last a long time, maybe its a better idea to invest more in storage (128GB runs out very quickly!)

[Reslivo]

With how the current trend of games is being set, you'll be fine with that setup on that monitor for another 3-4 years at the very least, I'd say.

 

I run the same 144Hz@1080 on a 970 and it's been fine for me for 90% of games with high-max settings.

[SeanAngelo]

2 minutes ago, lilbman said:

So should I get him a 1060 6GB instead?

yeah, that's enough for 1080p and will last you 4+ years.

[Froody129]

6 minutes ago, lilbman said:

So should I get him a 1060 6GB instead?

For 1080 144hz I'd go 1070. Go RX480 instead of 1060 if you go there

 

7 minutes ago, lilbman said:

How long does a generation of games last?

 He meant generation of cards. Typically it's recommended to upgrade every two gens if you want performance but a card can easily go 3-4 before it starts struggling

 

EDIT: Also today's games aren't really advancing since everyone is now trying to get to 4K, so better graphics aren't needed yet. 

[Androob]

Could you go the little extra mile and get a 2560x1440 monitor? You do have the opportunity to teach your child that not everything requires 4k and super maxed out settings, a 2560x1440 monitor is a really good balance in looks and it shouldn't phase a 1080 that much performance wise, if not at all. I play games at 2560x1440 on a 1050ti just fine. Food for thought, though.

[MekaStrix]

6 minutes ago, Androob said:

Could you go the little extra mile and get a 2560x1440 monitor? You do have the opportunity to teach your child that not everything requires 4k and super maxed out settings, a 2560x1440 monitor is a really good balance in looks and it shouldn't phase a 1080 that much performance wise, if not at all. I play games at 2560x1440 on a 1050ti just fine. Food for thought, though.

low settings at 1440p even looks better than 1080p maxed imo but I have GTX1080 and I don't get 60fps in every game maxed mostly the badly optimised ones like Forza Horizon etc. but for the most part I get 100+ fps at 1440p with a 1080 but then I never max games out as some settings I just don't see the point for example dynamic reflections in overwatch does next to nothing for visuals in my opinion

[Mick Naughty]

So what fps would you consider the lowest you would like? Keeping games capped at 144 frames would be somewhat difficult past this gen of games.

I still use a single card from the gtx 7xx series and it can play bf1 on the ultra preset and still maintain 60+ fps at 1080p.

 

A 1080 will get you far if you would like to do the same, even the 1070.

 

How about get him the 1060 and then he could just work for any upgrades in the future.

[PlayStation 2]

I have no fucking clue why people are suggesting go 1060/1070 for 1080p at 144hz. A GTX 1080 will be able to accomplish that at attractive settings.

Also, I'd get a Z170 board, or an H170 board and an i7-6700.

[MekaStrix]

7 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

So what fps would you consider the lowest you would like? Keeping games capped at 144 frames would be somewhat difficult past this gen of games.

I still use a single card from the gtx 7xx series and it can play bf1 on the ultra preset and still maintain 60+ fps at 1080p.

 

A 1080 will get you far if you would like to do the same, even the 1070.

 

How about get him the 1060 and then he could just work for any upgrades in the future.

1060 is a solid choice recently built someone a PC with the 3gb version and it was getting very high frame rate similar to that of the 980 so I imagine the 6gb to be even better

[MekaStrix]

3 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

I have no fucking clue why people are suggesting go 1060/1070 for 1080p at 144hz. A GTX 1080 will be able to accomplish that at attractive settings.

Also, I'd get a Z170 board, or an H170 board and an i7-6700.

is i7 really needed though for gaming? i5's are still the norm

[jjohnthedon1]

29 minutes ago, Reslivo said:

With how the current trend of games is being set, you'll be fine with that setup on that monitor for another 3-4 years at the very least, I'd say.

 

I run the same 144Hz@1080 on a 970 and it's been fine for me for 90% of games with high-max settings.

U don't run any aaa games at 144hz that came out last year at high maxsettings

 

[xAcid9]

Depend on what game he'll be playing. 144hz is pretty hard to maintain in many AAA or even non-AAA games so i suggest grab a GTX1070 and keep him on 60hz 1080p instead.

 

Also drop the K processor if you don't want to overclock or drop the B board for Z board if you want to get the most out of that processor and RAM.

[MekaStrix]

8 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Depend on what game he'll be playing. 144hz is pretty hard to maintain in many AAA or even non-AAA games so i suggest grab a GTX1070 and keep him on 60hz 1080p instead.

 

Also drop the K processor if you don't want to overclock or drop the B board for Z board if you want to get the most out of that processor and RAM.

I would agree if you have no experience with 144hz it's best to avoid it as once you go 144hz it's hard to go back making upgrades very expensive to maintain high framerates. Although I reccomend an LG ultrawide with an RX480 that allows you to get 75hz which is much better than 60hz and a 2560x1080 resolution but far easier to maintain than 144hz 1080p

 

[Guest lilbman]

46 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

So what fps would you consider the lowest you would like? Keeping games capped at 144 frames would be somewhat difficult past this gen of games.

I still use a single card from the gtx 7xx series and it can play bf1 on the ultra preset and still maintain 60+ fps at 1080p.

 

A 1080 will get you far if you would like to do the same, even the 1070.

 

How about get him the 1060 and then he could just work for any upgrades in the future.

I like that idea.  Thanks for the input!

[ivan134]

Since you dropped the 6700k, I would get a cheaper motherboard and use the money for a 144 Hz monitor instead. If your son decides to play overwatch or CSGO, you'll need it.

[Guest lilbman]

1 hour ago, ivan134 said:

Since you dropped the 6700k, I would get a cheaper motherboard and use the money for a 144 Hz monitor instead. If your son decides to play overwatch or CSGO, you'll need it.

Ehh idk..he's mostly into games like Civilization and Tropico.  He's gotten so good that he beat me in Civilization   he hasn't shown a ton of interest in games like CSGO or Overwatch.  He prefers strategy games.

 

Just asked, he said he would take a more expensive motherboard over a 144hz monitor any day.

[smokefest]

3 hours ago, MekaStrix said:

is i7 really needed though for gaming? i5's are still the norm

bf1 official recommended settings is i7

[ivan134]

1 hour ago, lilbman said:

Ehh idk..he's mostly into games like Civilization and Tropico.  He's gotten so good that he beat me in Civilization   he hasn't shown a ton of interest in games like CSGO or Overwatch.  He prefers strategy games.

 

Just asked, he said he would take a more expensive motherboard over a 144hz monitor any day.

Then you can go with an h170 board. What does he need a z170 for?