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New faster RAM or stay

Hey everyone,

 

I am thinking about faster RAM lately. Mainly because of some videos showing slightly improved frame times, bit better performance and so on (DigitalFoundry erhm).

My Asus Z170-A supports up to 3466Mhz in XMP.

So my question is should I get 3466Mhz, 3200Mhz (about 20€ cheaper) or stay with my 2400Mhz?

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stay with 2400, I would have even bought 2133 in the first place, ram frequency has very minimal difference in the end performance.

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there is no noticeable difference between frequencies with RAM really, more capacity might be worth it but frequency isn't worth it

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Since you already have the 2400 might as well stick with it, unless you know you have an application that will significantly benefit from it. If buying new, it wouldn't have cost much more to go faster.

 

If you feel lucky, you can see if you can overclock the 2400.

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If you're targeting 100+ fps and have the gpu horsepower to get there (eg a 1080p GSync panel or 144 Hz panel with your 1080) then faster RAM will definitely help. When you're targeting 60 fps faster RAM can help smooth out dips; my DDR3-2400 vs my DDR3-1600 makes a huge difference for minimums in a few games, but I use a weaker cpu than you do (Xeon E3-1231v3 which runs at 3.6 GHz). But I doubt you're seeing any dips below 60 fps with an overclocked i7-6700k. If you find you're being limited by cpu performance in some games then faster RAM can be a nice upgrade. In games where you're gpu limited you're unlikely to see much gain, if any.

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27 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

there is no noticeable difference between frequencies with RAM really, more capacity might be worth it but frequency isn't worth it

That's false, for a year now Digital Foundry has been showing RAM speed does matter in many games when you're not gpu limited.

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24 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

That's false, for a year now Digital Foundry has been showing RAM speed does matter in many games when you're not gpu limited.

Oh I didn't think it mattered that much ok thanks for informing me about that, I didn't know it.

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The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

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1 hour ago, porina said:

Since you already have the 2400 might as well stick with it, unless you know you have an application that will significantly benefit from it. If buying new, it wouldn't have cost much more to go faster.

 

If you feel lucky, you can see if you can overclock the 2400.

No specific application, but targetting 100fps+ it should matter. OC´ing RAM is the only thing I´m really scared off :(

44 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

If you're targeting 100+ fps and have the gpu horsepower to get there (eg a 1080p GSync panel or 144 Hz panel with your 1080) then faster RAM will definitely help. When you're targeting 60 fps faster RAM can help smooth out dips; my DDR3-2400 vs my DDR3-1600 makes a huge difference for minimums in a few games, but I use a weaker cpu than you do (Xeon E3-1231v3 which runs at 3.6 GHz). But I doubt you're seeing any dips below 60 fps with an overclocked i7-6700k. If you find you're being limited by cpu performance in some games then faster RAM can be a nice upgrade. In games where you're gpu limited you're unlikely to see much gain, if any.

I have a 144Hz 1440p G-Sync display. I think it might help me, since I find myself mostly in the 80 to 100fps range and as you said DF shows that especially in the higher range RAM speed matters. So you think it would make sense upgrading?

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CPU Cooler: Corsair H150i Capillex Storage: Samsung 980 Pro and 970 Evo 1TB Samsung 860 EVO 1TB Crucial MX300 525GB WD Black 2TB PSU: Corsair HX1000 Case: Corsair 500D SE RGB 6x LL120

 

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