Should I get a 1070?

[Tacos4all]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tj2tkT

Okay so to start, there's my build in that link. I'll sum up the important bits though.

i5-3570k OC to 4.2 GHz
EVGA GTX 960 4GB AC2.0
32 GB RAM
ASRock z77 Extreme3 

I recently got the 960 from a friend for Christmas. I was previously running a GIGABYTE GTX 770 Windforce OC Edition 2GB. My friend insists that the 960 is better cuz it has more VRAM. It's a close call on GPUboss but it gave the edge to the 770. But the 960 does eat a lot less power, only a single 8 pin as opposed to the 770's double 8 pin connector. In the meantime before I upgrade my GPU to possibly a 1070, should I go with the 770 (2GB VRAM) or 960 (4GB VRAM)? Bear in mind, I am content with 1080p, 60fps, though which do you guys/gals think will provide me that with higher detail settings.

As for the actual question at hand, before my friend gave me the 960, I had been thinking about getting a 1070. Like I said before, 1080p 60fps and Max detail settings (What I am limited to with my monitor anyways). So what i want to know, would it be overkill to get a 1070? I don't think I will be making the jump to 4k anytime soon considering prices are still too high for me to reasonably do so, on top of a graphics card upgrade. But I would consider 1440p and/or 100+Hz monitor. 

One other issue I am afraid to run into is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU. Right now, in BF4, a CPU intensive game, I can't manage to max out the CPU usage which is a good sign for the expected life of my CPU.

So let's say I do get a better monitor, would it then be more worth it to get a 1070 considering the hardware I am currently running? And in the time being, 770 or 960?

[ARikozuM]

Go for it. You can also upgrade to a 1440@60 monitor.

[anybodykek]

The 1070 is really a 1440p card. So unless you get a 1440p monitor or some weird ultrawide, it's not REALLY worth it. But I'd still go for it. It works as a 1080p card. And a 3570K won't severely bottleneck it, but I'd upgrade to a better Ivy Bridge CPU.

[Techicolors]

maxing out the latest games at 1080p... the 1070 can do. there's still a couple demanding games that you won't be able to max every setting, though. the 1070 works well at 1440p too - i have my 1070 paired with a 1440p monitor 

 

2 minutes ago, Tacos4all said:

One other issue I am afraid to run into is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU. Right now, in BF4, a CPU intensive game, I can't manage to max out the CPU usage which is a good sign for the expected life of my CPU.

that is because your 960 isn't fast enough, so your CPU doesn't work as hard. with a 1070 the CPU will have to work harder since the 1070 will be able to push out a lot more frames. with that said if you stick to 60fps you may not even see the bottleneck. but an i7 will improve minimum fps. 

[TheKDub]

960 4GB between that and the 770 2GB.

 

for 1080p 60fps maxed out, I'd go for the 1070, that way it'll be able to survive a couple extra years with the added horsepower.

 

Your CPU will be fine. If it starts holding you back, and you want better performance, then just upgrade it. No use in holding back on the other components to avoid having your CPU hold you back instead of the other components.

[Techicolors]

7 minutes ago, Tacos4all said:

It's a close call on GPUboss but it gave the edge to the 770.

also don't use GPUBoss. it's a really bad site 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Technicolors said:

also don't use GPUBoss. it's a really bad site 

Yup. A good site for beginners is usebenchmark

[anybodykek]

1 minute ago, Technicolors said:

also don't use GPUBoss. it's a really bad site 

I'd use UserBenchmark instead. They benchmark user systems and then give a report of the GPU based on mean performance with thousands of tests.

[Tacos4all]

4 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

that is because your 960 isn't fast enough, so your CPU doesn't work as hard. with a 1070 the CPU will have to work harder since the 1070 will be able to push out a lot more frames. with that said if you stick to 60fps you may not even see the bottleneck. but an i7 will improve minimum fps. 

Eventually I will move on to an i7. Seeing the very minimal improvements between even a Haswell and Kaby Lake, I may see if I can find a 4790k on the cheap. But processors really don't lose their value, even after 3-4 years. If I am gonna pay only $20 less for a Haswell, might as well get the latest, but of course that means changing out my Mobo and RAM.

[Tacos4all]

9 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

also don't use GPUBoss. it's a really bad site 

Alright thanks lol. Probably best just to look at various benchmarks than a site that uses an arbitrary 10 point scaling system

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, Tacos4all said:

Eventually I will move on to an i7. Seeing the very minimal improvements between even a Haswell and Kaby Lake, I may see if I can find a 4790k on the cheap. But processors really don't lose their value, even after 3-4 years. If I am gonna pay only $20 less for a Haswell, might as well get the latest, but of course that means changing out my Mobo and RAM.

4790K does just as well as Skylake in most cases. If you have the right platform for Haswell, just go for it.

[Tacos4all]

Thanks to everyone for your input, and quickly too! I knew I came to the right place. It seems like most of you are telling me 3 things.

get the 1070
Use the 960 in the meantime
and most importantly: STAY AWAY FROM GPUBOSS lol
 

Thanks again,
Josh

[ForumTryhard]

I have an asus 1070 and it's amazingly fast. I'd say get the 1070.

[Tacos4all]

3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

4790K does just as well as Skylake in most cases. If you have the right platform for Haswell, just go for it.

Now that I think about it, I am actually limited, with my current mobo, to Ivy bridge due to the socket. If I am gonna have to get a new MoBo, I'll eventually do so and just get whatever latest i7 is out at the time. Or maybe AMD's Ryzen thing will really blow Intel out of the water, who knows. A benefit to getting a newer mobo/CPU would also mean accessibility to DDR4 RAM (and higher clocked RAM) and USB 3.1 stuffs.

[Tacos4all]

Thanks for the UserBenchmark recommendations, it pretty much confirmed what department my rig is lacking most in.

UserBenchmarks: Game 60%, Desk 94%, Work 60%
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K - 89%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 - 54.5%
SSD: Intel Raid 0 Volume 960GB - 137.5%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB - 104.5%
USB: SanDisk Cruzer 2GB - 6.1%
RAM: Unknown 1600 CL9 Series 04CD F3-1600C9-8GXM 8502 1600 CL10 Series 04CD F3-1600C9-8GXM 32GB - 52.5%
MBD: Asrock Z77 Extreme3