Upgrade to 4790k or 7700k?

[iDeFecZx]

Currently have an i5 4690k paired with a EVGA 1070. Getting occasional stuttering in games like GTA 5 and WD2 and couple people said it was due to the i5. Should I get a 4790k or replace mobo and ram and get the 7700k?

[MrPants_]

I'd get the 4790k, won't be a big performance difference, i'd say it's the best for the buck

[Wonton]

4 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Currently have an i5 4690k paired with a EVGA 1070. Getting occasional stuttering in games like GTA 5 and WD2 and couple people said it was due to the i5. Should I get a 4790k or replace mobo and ram and get the 7700k?

 

TBH I'd get skylake not kaby. Either 4790k or 6500/6600k

[Oishter]

4790k is definitely more bang for the buck. Going to skylake isnt exactly worth it imo, for a slight performance boost, and kaby lake definitely not. Intel will have peak prices on that.

[iDeFecZx]

6 minutes ago, Wonton said:

TBH I'd get skylake not kaby. Either 4790k or 6500/6600k

Getting a skylake i5 would be rather pointless.

 

My main reason for picking between the 2 is also because im going to be picking up more ram aswell, but DDR3 is so expensive here atm so im not sure if I should just swap cpus or do it all while it makes sense to

[Wonton]

1 minute ago, iDeFecZx said:

Getting a skylake i5 would be rather pointless.

 

My main reason for picking between the 2 is also because im going to be picking up more ram aswell, but DDR3 is so expensive here atm so im not sure if I should just swap cpus or do it all while it makes sense to

 

Fair enough settle for the 4790k

[AlTech]

11 minutes ago, MrAwesomepants said:

I'd get the 4790k, won't be a big performance difference, i'd say it's the best for the buck

The difference between haswell and Kaby lake is huge. It's around 20-40%.

 

The difference between Skylake and Kaby lake is rubbish though.

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Getting a skylake i5 would be rather pointless.

 

My main reason for picking between the 2 is also because im going to be picking up more ram aswell, but DDR3 is so expensive here atm so im not sure if I should just swap cpus or do it all while it makes sense to

In this case i'd recommend the 4790K if you can find one for a good deal.

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

In this case i'd recommend the 4790K if you can find one for a good deal.

Yeah, unfortunately thatll mean going used since new ones are more than 6700k's last time I checked but atleast ill save on having to buy a new board too. 

[Wonton]

2 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Yeah, unfortunately thatll mean going used since new ones are more than 6700k's last time I checked but atleast ill save on having to buy a new board too. 

 

There is nothing wrong with buying used it is a great deal as cpu's basically never fail. And yes pricing for Haswell right now is absolutely rubbish who knows why they're more expensive

[Morgan MLGman]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

The difference between haswell and Kaby lake is huge. It's around 20-40%.

 

The difference between Skylake and Kaby lake is rubbish though.

There is no difference at all between Kaby and Skylake:

 

As for Haswell and Skylake it's around 7% on average:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3502vs2384

 

OP should just get the 4790K assuming he's happy with his motherboard cause there's no point getting an entire new platform for 7% of CPU performance more.

[grimreeper132]

18 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Currently have an i5 4690k paired with a EVGA 1070. Getting occasional stuttering in games like GTA 5 and WD2 and couple people said it was due to the i5. Should I get a 4790k or replace mobo and ram and get the 7700k?

Upgrading to a 4790K would be the best option as wouldn't be a big enough difference in performance between the 4790K and the 7700K, that being said if you want to build a completely brand new system, I would suggest waiting till the new ryzen CPUs come out, as they may offer a similar performance for a more reasonable prices compared with 

intels current line up. 

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

Upgrading to a 4790K would be the best option as wouldn't be a big enough difference in performance between the 4790K and the 7700K, that being said if you want to build a completely brand new system, I would suggest waiting till the new ryzen CPUs come out, as they may offer a similar performance for a more reasonable prices compared with 

intels current line up. 

Yeah, im fine with keeping this board. I just keep on wanting to move up to a mid tower from this ITX case but I think ill have a look around for some good deals on 4790k's

[cj09beira]

wait for zen, as when that happens you will have better prices all around.

[grimreeper132]

4 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Yeah, im fine with keeping this board. I just keep on wanting to move up to a mid tower from this ITX case but I think ill have a look around for some good deals on 4790k's

If you're looking around for a new system which it soulds like you are then I would still suggest waiting for AMD, I'm not an AMD fanboy or anything (I couldn't care less who makes my CPU or GPU as long as it's good) I just feel that from what AMD are currently saying about it it should be a good set of CPUs and are meant to be resealed soon, with that being said I am not holding my breath about it as I can still see the new line up being terrible

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

If you're looking around for a new system then I would still suggest waiting for AMD, I'm not an AMD fanboy or anything (I couldn't care less who makes my CPU or GPU as long as it's good) I just feel that from what AMD are currently saying about it it should be a good set of CPUs and are meant to be resealed soon, with that being said I am not holding my breath about it as I can still see the new line up being terrible

Its less of a system more just a bigger case lol

I wont have the money until next month so I can deal with waiting

[Wonton]

2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

wait for zen, as when that happens you will have better prices all around.

You'll never know I mean Intel doesn't seem to care bout AMD

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Wonton said:

You'll never know I mean Intel doesn't seem to care bout AMD

That is true, but that may be because intel doesn't have much faith in AMD or feel like they can compete with them no mater what, by lowering their prices for example, either that or they are trying to keep a "calm face" and stay collected so they can think tactically.

[Wonton]

2 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

That is true, but that may be because intel doesn't have much faith in AMD or feel like they can compete with them no mater what, by lowering their prices for example, either that or they are trying to keep a "calm face" and stay collected so they can think tactically.

 

I guess they think it's not much of a threat 

[TrueSparktron]

id say get the 7700k so you can upgrade in like 10 years compared to around 6.

 

[pros of 7700k]

ddr4

lower thermal output [id assume, don'thave 1 but my 6700k is super cool and they are close enough so that's my reasoning.] 

14nm architecture compared to 22nm

more pci-e slots

4k streaming????

some other next gen exclusives you can see via a reliable youtube video from jayz2cents or other youtubers like him or just by checking intel.com

newer motherboards  who doesn't like a new motherboard for the same socket. b150, z150, z170 and now z270, maybe even a b250 and a z250. [sarcasm]

more max memory. [from knowledge] 4790k max is 32gb while 7700k is 64gb

better inbuilt graphics [pointless, just get a graphics card]

4.2ghz-4.5ghz base speeds

overclockable 

4 cores 8 threads

 

[pros of 4790k]

reliable and has shown its worth.

4.0-4.4ghz base speeds

overclockable

ddr3 is still pretty good

cheaper memory, motherboard and the cpu itself is cheaper.

[lil rant. on the website i buy computer parts. the 6700k is cheaper than the 4790k]

4 cores 8 threads

not to far apart from the 7700k cpu vs cpu

cooler name [devils canyon compared to kaby lake, which one sounds cooler?]

 

in the end it is your choice but these are a few reasons to get both.

hope this assists.

 

[iDeFecZx]

6 minutes ago, TrueSparktron said:

id say get the 7700k so you can upgrade in like 10 years compared to around 6.

 

[pros of 7700k]

ddr4

lower thermal output [id assume, don'thave 1 but my 6700k is super cool and they are close enough so that's my reasoning.] 

14nm architecture compared to 22nm

more pci-e slots

4k streaming????

some other next gen exclusives you can see via a reliable youtube video from jayz2cents or other youtubers like him or just by checking intel.com

newer motherboards  who doesn't like a new motherboard for the same socket. b150, z150, z170 and now z270, maybe even a b250 and a z250. [sarcasm]

more max memory. [from knowledge] 4790k max is 32gb while 7700k is 64gb

better inbuilt graphics [pointless, just get a graphics card]

4.2ghz-4.5ghz base speeds

overclockable 

4 cores 8 threads

 

[pros of 4790k]

reliable and has shown its worth.

4.0-4.4ghz base speeds

overclockable

ddr3 is still pretty good

cheaper memory, motherboard and the cpu itself is cheaper.

[lil rant. on the website i buy computer parts. the 6700k is cheaper than the 4790k]

4 cores 8 threads

not to far apart from the 7700k cpu vs cpu

cooler name [devils canyon compared to kaby lake, which one sounds cooler?]

 

in the end it is your choice but these are a few reasons to get both.

hope this assists.

 

Yeah, ive already got a 4690k so I dont need a new board or RAM if I go with the 4790k

I dont care for the iGPU since I have a 1070

RAM I can't imagine ill be needing more than 16GB anytime soon

 

Depending on how the PC world goes ill probably be upgrading in 5 years I reckon anyway so I might just work out whichll be cheaper and go from there

[grimreeper132]

2 hours ago, TrueSparktron said:

id say get the 7700k so you can upgrade in like 10 years compared to around 6.

 

[pros of 7700k]

ddr4

lower thermal output [id assume, don'thave 1 but my 6700k is super cool and they are close enough so that's my reasoning.] 

14nm architecture compared to 22nm

more pci-e slots

4k streaming????

some other next gen exclusives you can see via a reliable youtube video from jayz2cents or other youtubers like him or just by checking intel.com

newer motherboards  who doesn't like a new motherboard for the same socket. b150, z150, z170 and now z270, maybe even a b250 and a z250. [sarcasm]

more max memory. [from knowledge] 4790k max is 32gb while 7700k is 64gb

better inbuilt graphics [pointless, just get a graphics card]

4.2ghz-4.5ghz base speeds

overclockable 

4 cores 8 threads

 

[pros of 4790k]

reliable and has shown its worth.

4.0-4.4ghz base speeds

overclockable

ddr3 is still pretty good

cheaper memory, motherboard and the cpu itself is cheaper.

[lil rant. on the website i buy computer parts. the 6700k is cheaper than the 4790k]

4 cores 8 threads

not to far apart from the 7700k cpu vs cpu

cooler name [devils canyon compared to kaby lake, which one sounds cooler?]

 

in the end it is your choice but these are a few reasons to get both.

hope this assists.

 

I'm not dissing the 7700K, it is only the fact it's practically the same CPU to the 6700K, only with a small increase to the frequency, and with ryzen just roun d the corner, I would suggest waiting till then before making any purchasing decisions, incase ryzen is as good, or better, as what it's being hyped up to be.

 

[Guest]

I was in the same boat as the OP.  I know it's nearly a year later but it's worth posting my experience for others who have a nice setup with a Z97 board, 16GB Memory, GTX Series 900 or 1000 series video cards.

 

I actually have two duplicate systems, one for backup. Both have the i5 4690K.   I do a lot of video production for screen-capture videos of virtual golf games.  I simply wanted to see if the i7 4790K which fits into the LG 1150 socket would make video editing faster.  It does by about 20%.  That's a good bump overall for video production and a far less expensive move $350.00 than building a new system with the latest and greatest which would cost me three times that much easily.

 

Yes. The Intel i7 4790K is just as expensive (new) these days as it was back in 2014.  But as many have said and I agree, the cost to build a new system when your current system is running great is a no brainer.  As for gaming, the 4690K is perfectly matched with my GTX 970 SSC 4GB and now I have the best of both worlds (gaming/video production) with the i7 4790K.