Amp for Cars

[em10242]

ok. so I bought 2 speakers that are 1000 watts each. does that mean that my max is 1000 watts or 2000 watts?

[UrdnotGrunt]

Unless the box/manual for them says RMS, then its max power. also are they 4 or 8ohm?

[Gix7Fifty]

1000 watts per channel provided those speakers can handle it. BTW you should be at 3 or 5 channel. 

[JordanMihailov]

see in here  http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Amplifiers

[dizmo]

I really don't think the speakers are putting out 1000w each. That's likely the "musical" rating. Check for the RMS rating, as that's the actual power amount.

[UrdnotGrunt]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I really don't think the speakers are putting out 1000w each. That's likely the "musical" rating. Check for the RMS rating, as that's the actual power amount.

thats the suggested continuous power it can handle. Also check out the amps themselves. If the OP sees an amp that says 1500 watts but has only a single 30 amp fuse, its fake. Also I personally have seen amps marketed as being mono-block amps, but they have  2 or more channels. thats also fake

[JordanMihailov]

whats the speakers ?

[kirashi]

2 hours ago, em10242 said:

ok. so I bought 2 speakers that are 1000 watts each. does that mean that my max is 1000 watts or 2000 watts?

Make and model of speakers please. I'm willing to be you $20 that they're 1000watts peak power, and not RMS, which is the actual power they'll output.

Same thing goes for buying amps - I know many makes and models of amps that claim to deliver 3000watts over all 5 channels for cheap. They're all fake or will explode if actually driven at 3000watts for longer than about 50ms, so please provide us more information about your speakers you bought.

 

If you desire, also include the year, make, and model (with trim options) of your car, and tell me what kind of audio upgrade you're looking to achieve. I'll get back to you with what amp, radio/stereo unit to buy, as well as good speaker options too. Include your budget as well.

[TheBestUserName]

Speakers don't put out any power. But they'll consume it.

Amplifiers will have a power output, though. 

[em10242]

On 12/29/2016 at 3:29 AM, JordanMihailov said:

whats the speakers ?

they are bbl cx1200

 

[em10242]

On 12/29/2016 at 3:43 AM, kirashi said:

Make and model of speakers please. I'm willing to be you $20 that they're 1000watts peak power, and not RMS, which is the actual power they'll output.

Same thing goes for buying amps - I know many makes and models of amps that claim to deliver 3000watts over all 5 channels for cheap. They're all fake or will explode if actually driven at 3000watts for longer than about 50ms, so please provide us more information about your speakers you bought.

 

If you desire, also include the year, make, and model (with trim options) of your car, and tell me what kind of audio upgrade you're looking to achieve. I'll get back to you with what amp, radio/stereo unit to buy, as well as good speaker options too. Include your budget as well.

they are JBL cx1200. I have Kicker CS 300 watts max. no amp and no cables yet. I might use the factory stereo (because I like factory looks and not shiny gloss black plastic or use a Raxiom OE-Style GPS Navigation w/ Bluetooth & Back-Up Camera. this is going on a 2007 mustang.

[kirashi]

4 hours ago, em10242 said:

they are JBL cx1200. I have Kicker CS 300 watts max. no amp and no cables yet. I might use the factory stereo (because I like factory looks and not shiny gloss black plastic or use a Raxiom OE-Style GPS Navigation w/ Bluetooth & Back-Up Camera. this is going on a 2007 mustang.

Excellent! Based on the information you have provided, your subwoofer speakers are 250W RMS. They are most definitely NOT 1000w.

http://www.jbl.com/car-speakers/CX1200_.html#spcs_support

This means you'd be fine getting a single channel amp around 200w-300w, or a 5 channel amp that runs around 250w on the 5th channel.

 

When you say you have a Kicker CS 300's, all I get in search results is their CX300 amplifiers. Please let me know which exact speakers you have.

http://www.kicker.com/2016-cs-series

 

Now, I assume you've wired these speakers directly into your existing car stereo. This is fine, however, I don't know the details of wiring a subwoofer amp directly into existing wiring since I always replace the low end factory radios in most cars older than 2012 with something that has dedicated RCA outputs. These then would get directly wired into the speaker amplifiers as needed.

There definitely is a way to wire in a sub amp to factory stereos though; I would imagine you run additional speaker wire to the inputs on the subwoofer amp specifically labelled for this use, which means your subwoofer would be based off the volume levels for your front or rear speakers, depending on which wires you use.

[jonnylaw13]

2 hours ago, kirashi said:

 

There definitely is a way to wire in a sub amp to factory stereos though; I would imagine you run additional speaker wire to the inputs on the subwoofer amp specifically labelled for this use, which means your subwoofer would be based off the volume levels for your front or rear speakers, depending on which wires you use.

i dont think ive seen a mono-d with this possible but ive seen a lot of 4+ channel amps that come with the wired to use the speaker inputs as the inputs for the amp, i have also seen adapters that do this but theyre not very good

[em10242]

On 12/31/2016 at 6:42 PM, kirashi said:

Excellent! Based on the information you have provided, your subwoofer speakers are 250W RMS. They are most definitely NOT 1000w.

http://www.jbl.com/car-speakers/CX1200_.html#spcs_support

This means you'd be fine getting a single channel amp around 200w-300w, or a 5 channel amp that runs around 250w on the 5th channel.

 

When you say you have a Kicker CS 300's, all I get in search results is their CX300 amplifiers. Please let me know which exact speakers you have.

http://www.kicker.com/2016-cs-series

 

Now, I assume you've wired these speakers directly into your existing car stereo. This is fine, however, I don't know the details of wiring a subwoofer amp directly into existing wiring since I always replace the low end factory radios in most cars older than 2012 with something that has dedicated RCA outputs. These then would get directly wired into the speaker amplifiers as needed.

There definitely is a way to wire in a sub amp to factory stereos though; I would imagine you run additional speaker wire to the inputs on the subwoofer amp specifically labelled for this use, which means your subwoofer would be based off the volume levels for your front or rear speakers, depending on which wires you use.

It's these guys that I have. 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/kicker-6-3-4-coaxial-car-speakers-with-polypropylene-cones-pair-black/7709236.p?skuId=7709236&productCategoryId=pcmcat360500050020

 

 

i have found a sub cable for my  shaker 500 radio for the amplifier 

[kirashi]

7 hours ago, em10242 said:

It's these guys that I have. 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/kicker-6-3-4-coaxial-car-speakers-with-polypropylene-cones-pair-black/7709236.p?skuId=7709236&productCategoryId=pcmcat360500050020

 

 

i have found a sub cable for my  shaker 500 radio for the amplifier 

Excellent! More good information. So, it looks like you've got the upgraded stereo (Shaker 500) which is better than stock/base model, of course. A lot of people Mustang Forums state the Shaker 500 is good, but is difficult to splice in your own speakers without replacing the radio altogether.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/2005-2010/104955-stereo-guys-shaker-500-factory-amplifiers-speakers-picture.html

http://mustangforums.com/forum/audio-visual-electronics/493422-shaker-500-door-subs-replaced-walk-through.html

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/audio-video/147813-stock-shaker-500-sub-amp-specs.html

 

This has to do with wiring and the wattage that the Shaker 500 outputs; if you're good with wiring it up, then technically you don't need to replace it unless you want more wattage than it can deliver. According to the post linked below, the Shaker 500 is 500watts PEAK power between all speakers. This means you're getting about 20w out of each front left and right channel, and the rear speakers get about half that. The door subs receive around 40w power each.

http://themustangsource.com/forums/f637/shaker-500-specifications-454798/#post5357903

 

As the guy in that post states, I too would highly recommend replacing the stock headunit with a much better stereo from Pioneer or Alpine, and using either a single 5-channel amplifier, or a 4-channel and a mono-block Class D amplifier to drive both door subwoofers. You 2007 Mustang is awesome for supporting door subs, since most cars only have 4 regular speakers in front doors and rear deck/doors, leaving you to place your sub(s) in the back in their own enclosure.

 

Since your subs are rate for 250W RMS, and the Kicker speakers you've already got are good for about 100W RMS, using the Shaker 500 headunit to drive them means the speakers are essentially only being given about 5-10% power at any given time. Nothing wrong with that little power if you're not about to turn them past 11 to blow your neighbors brains out, but at the same time, driving speakers below 40-60% means you've essentially bought them for nothing and could have just kept the factory speakers instead...

 

I understand from your original post that you DO NOT like glossy plastic on your centre console. That's fine; there are indeed stereo headunits out there that are matte finish and the mounting brackets usually aren't glossy themselves. Worst case you can actually do some light sanding of glossy plastic to reduce the glossy finish down to a satin/matte look.

 

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A double-din stereo, such as the one above, would look nice in an 2007 Mustang, and even when off it has more of a satin finish to it. Most single-din decks are all glossy because manufacturers apparently don't like to offer choice. An old coworker of mine has a double-din in his 2008 Shelby GT and it looks pretty decent.

 

If you need a hand with anything specific, such as what amp(s) to consider, or what headunits to look at, let me know.

[UrdnotGrunt]

On 12/31/2016 at 8:33 PM, jonnylaw13 said:

i dont think ive seen a mono-d with this possible but ive seen a lot of 4+ channel amps that come with the wired to use the speaker inputs as the inputs for the amp, i have also seen adapters that do this but theyre not very good

that all depends on whether or not the vehicle has a built in amplifier. if it does itll have to be bypassed