What is the chance that there will be a Thin Mini ITX motherboard for RYZEN (AM4)?

[john826472]

What are the chances of motherboard manufactures to design an AM4 CPU based thin mini ITX motherboard?

[oskarha]

Judging by the fact that there were itx am3 boards I dont see why not.

[Cyndre1033]

Motherboard manufacturers (MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc.) will almost guaranteed make motherboards for AM4 unless Zen never comes out and pigs start to fly. And yes, there probably will be mini ITX boards. 

[john826472]

Well im talking about Thin mini ITX motherboards. The ones that use SODIMM ram

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Aladd2040 said:

Well im talking about Thin mini ITX motherboards. The ones that use SODIMM ram

Unlikey. That standard is about as dead as dtx these days.

[Misanthrope]

mini itx boards almost for sure.

 

thin mini itx however is an intel format (They're not the same the main difference is the SODIMM slots instead of DIMM slots for ram and notorious lack of pcie x8 slots)

 

AMD might come up with something similar to thin mini itx once they have the APUs ready (thin mini itx is aimed at the AIO market) but I don't believe they'll support thin mini itx, not right away anyway.

[john826472]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Unlikey. That standard is about as dead as dtx these days.

Really? Why? Has there not been a push toward small thin form factor PC's lately?

Plus with the efficientcy of RYZEN it should be not such a big problem. Right?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Aladd2040 said:

Really? Why? Has there not been a push toward small thin form factor PC's lately?

Plus with the efficientcy of RYZEN it should be not such a big problem. Right?

There has, but not with thin itx, mainly custom boards. Having to use a standard board limits what you can do, and doesn't really help at all.

 

I don't think ryzen will be that effiecent compared to current intel. 

[Guest]

AMD actually said a while ago they didn;t plan on having mini-ITX. But this was months ago, maybe during computex? 

 

I don't remember the source, maybe a Crit TV/Tek Sydicate video? 

 

I really hope they do, I am never going back to ATX, or even Micro-ATX.

 

 

[john826472]

21 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

There has, but not with thin itx, mainly custom boards. Having to use a standard board limits what you can do, and doesn't really help at all.

 

I don't think ryzen will be that effiecent compared to current intel. 

well the 8 core 16 thread RYZEN CPU with a 95W TDP just slightly edged above the 140W TDP of the i7-6900K(an 8 core 16 thread CPU) in terms of benchmark performance.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Aladd2040 said:

well the 8 core 16 thread RYZEN CPU with a 95W TDP just slightly edged above the 140W TDP of the i7-6900K(an 8 core 16 thread CPU) in terms of benchmark performance.

Thats marketing, take that with a grain of salt. You don't know what there doing to get those numbers. Wait for reviews.

 

Also AMD and intel rate their TDP's differently.

 

 

[john826472]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats marketing, take that with a grain of salt. You don't know what there doing to get those numbers. Wait for reviews.

 

Also AMD and intel rate their TDP's differently.

 

 

I understand that that's why is specifically said benchmark performance (The benchmarks they used).

I did not know that AMD and Intel rate their TDP's differently.

Are AMD watts bigger than Intels :-)?  or are they secretly measuring kilowatts? 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Aladd2040 said:

I understand that that's why is specifically said benchmark performance (The benchmarks they used).

I did not know that AMD and Intel rate their TDP's differently.

Are AMD watts bigger than Intels :-)?  or are they secretly measuring kilowatts? 

Normally Intels tdp pulls less power than a current amd cpu with the same tdp.

TDP should be taken with grain of salt normally. For example, a 6600k and a 6700k have the same tdp, while the 6700k uses more power. 

[john826472]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Normally Intels tdp pulls less power than a current amd cpu with the same tdp.

TDP should be taken with grain of salt normally. For example, a 6600k and a 6700k have the same tdp, while the 6700k uses more power. 

Ok thanks :-)

[SkyHound0202]

A Chinese OEM made a $59 A320-based Thin Mini ITX board.

http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Specifications.aspx?id=414

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.4.609e3775Er9cZs&id=583127994911