Can my Power Supply Run the 1050?

[toastythomas]

I'm not sure where to place this thread, but this will do.

Anyways, I am looking to purchase a GTX 1050 for my secondary PC this Christmas and I was wondering if the current power supply can run it. Looking at the paper, no, but I know many of you have more knowledge than me. I currently have a GT 730 inside of the system. On Nvidia's website it recommends a 300W PSU and draws anywhere from 25W-50W. The GTX 1050 recommends a 300W PSU aswell but draws 75W of power. My PSU is only 240W. My GT 730 runs well so will the GTX 1050 run well? Before you ask, no, I will not upgrade my PSU. I cannot. It's OEM and proprietary as well as the motherboard so even if I did upgrade the PSU I would have to grab a new Ivy-Bridge motherboard which will run me $75. No. 

 

Here's my PSU info.

[Guest]

No. I'd say definitely not, wouldn't even recommend a 300 watt for that.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Should work fine. The psu requirement is much higher than what it really needs.

[toastythomas]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Should work fine. The psu requirement is much higher than what it really needs.

That's what I feel is true. I am just hesitant because I don't want to have to return it or damage it or something.

[aisle9]

What else have you got under the hood? What you linked is a general parts/spec sheet, not details on your system.

[toastythomas]

2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

What else have you got under the hood? What you linked is a general parts/spec sheet, not details on your system.

It's a prebuilt and is as follows:

Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)

WD Blue 500GB HDD

4GB DDR3 Memory

220W PSU

[laushik]

I really wouldn't. Rule of thumb- always add 100 watts to the recommended psu.

[tarfeef101]

Maybe, you'll likely be pushing pretty close to the amount of power that PSU is rated for. I personally wouldn't, but I definitely cannot say it won't work.

[toastythomas]

2 minutes ago, laushik said:

I really wouldn't. Rule of thumb- always add 100 watts to the recommended psu.

I'm not looking for safe. I'm looking for it working. I don't plan on adding any overclock or anything.

[laushik]

1 minute ago, toastythomas said:

I'm not looking for safe. I'm looking for it working. I don't plan on adding any overclock or anything.

Try this: http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

[aisle9]

2 minutes ago, toastythomas said:

It's a prebuilt and is as follows:

Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)

WD Blue 500GB HDD

4GB DDR3 Memory

220W PSU

Long story short, no. Not even a little bit. Even at a 240W PSU, no.

 

The build there doesn't have any optical drive or fans. I'm sure your PC has an optical drive, and I'd imagine it has at least one fan on the cooler.

 

Can your PSU handle it? Maybe. Maybe not. The GT 730 is a much less demanding GPU to run than a 1050 Ti. Keeping in mind that a blown PSU can take everything else with it, the question becomes this: do you want a 1050 Ti badly enough to nuke everything else in there?

 

tbqh, your best bet is to do exactly what you don't want to: buy a new Ivy mobo and a case for it. You can sometimes find decent systems on the cheap on Craigslist, in thrift stores, at yard sales, whatever. I would simply not trust a 240W PSU, especially a cheapo prebuilt proprietary one pieced together by the low man on the totem pole at the Chinese firecracker factory, to handle a load that, when the GPU and CPU are both kicking, approaches or exceeds its rated limit.

[toastythomas]

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

Long story short, no. Not even a little bit. Even at a 240W PSU, no.

 

The build there doesn't have any optical drive or fans. I'm sure your PC has an optical drive, and I'd imagine it has at least one fan on the cooler.

 

Can your PSU handle it? Maybe. Maybe not. The GT 730 is a much less demanding GPU to run than a 1050 Ti. Keeping in mind that a blown PSU can take everything else with it, the question becomes this: do you want a 1050 Ti badly enough to nuke everything else in there?

 

tbqh, your best bet is to do exactly what you don't want to: buy a new Ivy mobo and a case for it. You can sometimes find decent systems on the cheap on Craigslist, in thrift stores, at yard sales, whatever. I would simply not trust a 240W PSU, especially a cheapo prebuilt proprietary one pieced together by the low man on the totem pole at the Chinese firecracker factory, to handle a load that, when the GPU and CPU are both kicking, approaches or exceeds its rated limit.

GTX 1050, not TI.

5 minutes ago, laushik said:

Try this: http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

I found my result on the CM website to be interesting. 

Load Wattage: 151 W
Recommended PSU Wattage :201 W

[laushik]

1 minute ago, toastythomas said:

GTX 1050, not TI.

I found my result on the CM website to be interesting. 

Load Wattage: 151 W
Recommended PSU Wattage :201 W

Looks like you might be golden. If you can buy a quality psu that would be great but if not you should be fine with yours. 

[manikyath]

i've done worse on a little 250 watt HP unit, but i *DEFENATELY* dont recommend it, it's always a guess, and i dont quite like recommending something that i wouldnt leave unattended myself.

[toastythomas]

6 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

tbqh, your best bet is to do exactly what you don't want to: buy a new Ivy mobo and a case for it. You can sometimes find decent systems on the cheap on Craigslist, in thrift stores, at yard sales, whatever. 

I'm going to put the PC on a wooden board pretty soon. I will take your advice and shop around on used websites for a day or two.

[aisle9]

9 minutes ago, toastythomas said:

GTX 1050, not TI.

I found my result on the CM website to be interesting. 

Load Wattage: 151 W
Recommended PSU Wattage :201 W

Same TDP for the 1050 and 1050 Ti.

 

Your computer, not mine, tbqh. If I were unhappy with a 730 in a build with a 240W PSU, I'd be looking into a new computer. No other way of saying it: gaming with your CPU/GPU combo would likely kill the PSU, possibly taking other components with it.

 

A note on CM's PSU estimator: I just punched in the specs of my rig, Senketsu. You can go look at the PCPartPicker link in my sig if you'd like. Cooler Master pegs it at 378W. PCPP has it at 391W. The reality? I pull 415-450W at full load while rendering 1080p video and using Photoshop. I pull 450-ish during synthetic stress tests. I give PCPP a 100W margin of error anyway because I know it underestimates, but Cooler Master undershot it by even more.

 

I'm not hammering on this to be a dick. I'm hammering on it because you're taking a huge risk putting a GTX 1050 into your current PC.

[toastythomas]

11 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Same TDP for the 1050 and 1050 Ti.

 

Your computer, not mine, tbqh. If I were unhappy with a 730 in a build with a 240W PSU, I'd be looking into a new computer. No other way of saying it: gaming with your CPU/GPU combo would likely kill the PSU, possibly taking other components with it.

 

A note on CM's PSU estimator: I just punched in the specs of my rig, Senketsu. You can go look at the PCPartPicker link in my sig if you'd like. Cooler Master pegs it at 378W. PCPP has it at 391W. The reality? I pull 415-450W at full load while rendering 1080p video and using Photoshop. I pull 450-ish during synthetic stress tests. I give PCPP a 100W margin of error anyway because I know it underestimates, but Cooler Master undershot it by even more.

 

I'm not hammering on this to be a dick. I'm hammering on it because you're taking a huge risk putting a GTX 1050 into your current PC.

I get you, man. Thanks for looking out for a homie.

[Apollo Refugio]

your lucky your GT 730 runs with a 240 watt. my GT 610 won't even run on a 240 watt. fml

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Should work fine. The psu requirement is much higher than what it really needs.

I dont think so, I mean it's in a prebuilt system dude.

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, Abyss Gaming said:

I dont think so, I mean it's in a prebuilt system dude.

Those psu are fine. There would ship a computer with a shit psu. 

[brokencross]

It's not that it won't run it fine on a 250w quality PSU, it's more of a "will my cheap chinese cap psu blow up if I try to run it" situation.

[GitGud]

Depends how power hungry CPU you got or how many other components you have, if you have something like a newer gen i3 or i5, single HDD and SSD you should be fine to boot, 1050 itself barely needs any power.

[faziten]

it will probably work just fine. Would i recommend it? No. Why? Even if it works we can't assure for HOW LONG. Maybe weeks? Years? Hours? One boot and Poof*?

Once you go out of spec there is little to hold to but luck itself. Want to test your luck? Go ahead.